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#299910 - 09/04/21 07:37 PM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
paulr Offline
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Not all of these lights have firefly/moonlight modes, unfortunately, and for a very small (coin cell) light, 1 lumen would take a significant amount of power. It is also a lot of light, maybe even enough to be annoying. If you are night adapted, 0.1 lumens goes a long way.

Would you want it just to be able to find the light? A GITD marker that you charge up in the daytime or with the high mode would work better.

It looks to me by eyeball like the Litezall's low mode is about 50% of high mode, but I haven't measured.


Edited by paulr (09/04/21 07:40 PM)

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#299911 - 09/04/21 09:53 PM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
Ren Offline
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Just to make it clear, I'm not looking for a light.
Was just talking about my personal preferences.

GITD are no good for lights packed away in a kit most of the time, as they need to be charged. Though I do EDC a lumintop tool 2 aa that comes with a silicone GITD o ring installed and a GITD silicone difuser.

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#299912 - 09/04/21 10:37 PM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Well you wouldn't want to leave your light running in moon mode while it is stowed in a kit! You'd have to find it somehow to take it out of the kit, but after that you could charge up the GITD marker either with daylight (if daytime), or with the LED. There are also tritium markers, but they are on the expensive side for something like this, not so easy to buy, and they fade after some decades (H3 half-life=12 years).

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#299913 - 09/04/21 10:47 PM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
Ren Offline
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Want moonlight for when go to sleep at night, so can find it if needed. Zebralight is the obvious choice with it's best of class regulation, but expensive just to sit around not being used.

Can buy tritium vials over the counter here in the UK.

Also have betalight torches (large coin sized tritium source for map reading and the like), but have gotten really expensive especially new.

Link: https://www.betalight.nl/en/outdoor-tactical/torch.html



Edited by Ren (09/04/21 10:55 PM)

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#299914 - 09/04/21 11:20 PM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
paulr Offline
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Yeah small tritium vials are great. Betalight is not really practical for this, besides being way expensive. Can you get 11mm tritium spheres there? I have an old light that needs one.

I'm finding it surprising given the huge variety of tiny handheld flashlights available, including dozens of kinds of keychain lights, that there are so few options in the ultralight headlamp space. There are several "obvious right ways" to make a keychain flashlight and all of them are well represented by products. But in headlamps, lots of that space is unpopulated. A lot of headlamps also almost get it right, but then mess it up somehow. That's why I keep dwelling on the topic.


Edited by paulr (09/04/21 11:23 PM)

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#299915 - 09/05/21 12:25 AM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
Ren Offline
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Believe no one makes spheres any more, and haven't for at least several years now.

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#299922 - 09/05/21 07:55 AM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
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If you want to find things in dark you could do as I did = buy glow in dark tape and mark things with it.
I have taped a 4x4 inch area on bedside table to find my eye glasses in pitch dark. Also patches here and the on the walls so that I can navigate my appartment in pitch dark.
I bought the proffessional grade that they use to mark fire exits and so on. It is expensive but worth the money. It´s amazing how bright it is when your eyes are adjusted to dark.


Edited by Herman30 (09/05/21 07:58 AM)

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#299924 - 09/05/21 08:42 AM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Herman30]
Phaedrus Offline
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Originally Posted By: Herman30
If you want to find things in dark you could do as I did = buy glow in dark tape and mark things with it.
I have taped a 4x4 inch area on bedside table to find my eye glasses in pitch dark. Also patches here and the on the walls so that I can navigate my appartment in pitch dark.
I bought the proffessional grade that they use to mark fire exits and so on. It is expensive but worth the money. It´s amazing how bright it is when your eyes are adjusted to dark.


Interesting! I'll have to look for that product.
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#299925 - 09/05/21 09:48 AM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
paulr Offline
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Countycomm has GITD tape: https://countycomm.com/products/maraspec-glow-tape

I don't know how it compares with the professional stuff that Herman30 mentions, but I've found that even not-so-great GITD stuff works pretty well.

I've instead been wanting to get some of these little markers, which have been out of stock for a while, but will supposedly come back sometime: https://countycomm.com/products/ugm-mini-markers-pack-of-15

https://www.technoglowproducts.com/ is supposed to be a good source of high quality GITD powder, which is strontium aluminate with other exotic materials like yttrium added. GITD markers and the like are made by mixing the powder with epoxy resin, letting it harden, and slicing it up. I have no idea of the toxicity of the powder and for now am reluctant to mess with it. I'd rather get ready-made-markers, maybe even the kind in sealed glass vials.

I haven't felt the need to mark out stuff in my room with GITD tape since there's always a flashlight near my bed, and enough stray light that I can find a light switch when dark adapted without stumbling around too much.

For tritium, search on "glowring". The green color is by far the brightest and most visible for a given size vial. Be careful to keep the vial well protected since they are breakable. They are relatively expensive and these days I think I'd rather use GITD stuff in most situations due to lower hassle. I have a headlamp with a GITD holder and I can easily find it at night even though it's just sitting in my room, not getting daylight or anything like that.


Edited by paulr (09/05/21 09:49 AM)

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#299927 - 09/05/21 10:09 AM Re: Black Diamond Flare Headlamp? [Re: Doug_Ritter]
chaosmagnet Offline
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I have some of CountyComm’s glow in the dark markers on the lanyards of flashlights, making them easy to find in the dark. No affiliation.

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