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#299035 - 05/29/21 10:07 PM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: Ren]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ren
There is the old Hammaro fire lighting paper


I really like that stuff.

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#299036 - 05/30/21 12:32 AM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: rafowell]
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Yeah, I keep the Hammaro stuff in all my kits.
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#299037 - 05/30/21 04:51 PM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: rafowell]
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Where do you get Hammaro? I have never heard of it before....
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#299038 - 05/30/21 06:35 PM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: rafowell]
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5Col.com usually has the Hammaro tinder, and a couple of eBay sellers have it. It's a stiff, rigid card impregnated with some kind of wax (smells like beeswax but I'm not sure what all they use). Pretty water resistant and it burns a fair while.
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#299039 - 05/30/21 07:12 PM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: rafowell]
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Hammaro is made in Sweden so might be more difficult to get hold of.

There's a few alternatives made over in the US. Spartan Fire is a waxed cotton tinder from https://gopreparedsurvival.com/

Pretty sure seen some others... but can't remember names of the top of my head.

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#299040 - 05/31/21 01:45 AM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: Ren]
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Thanks to both of you - good info!
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#299041 - 06/01/21 12:29 PM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: rafowell]
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Remembered another one.

Credit cards made from magnesium and another from cedar.

https://shomer-tec.com/products/fire-cards

Bit James Bondy but are compact.

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#299098 - 06/12/21 04:38 PM Signal Mirror Success 12/29/2019 [Re: rafowell]
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Signal mirror success story, 12/29/2019:

Sailboat with 3 aboard in the Pacific.

First it was dismasted, and the next day a storm turned it upside down and flooded the engine, navigation electronics and satellite phone. They tried in vain for days to get the engine or phone working again.

Eight days after their phone died, a vessel passed within 1/2 mile, and they used their rockets and smoke bombs in a vain attempt to get its attention.

The next day another vessel appeared "a long way off".

"So we ripped the mirrors from the bathroom and used them to reflect the sun to signal the ship." (quotes from survivor's account)

As the US Coast Guard commented afterwards, an EPIRB/PLB would have greatly shortened their ordeal.

News Story - Daily Mail

Survivor's Account - Outside Magazine

Not sharing my obsession, many accounts failed to mention the mirrors:

US Coast Guard News Release

Family day by day account for the 9 days


Edited by rafowell (06/12/21 04:39 PM)
Edit Reason: Correct date in title
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#299301 - 07/09/21 12:08 AM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: Ren]
Ren Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ren
Had a recent idea, was to make a phone case with a signal mirror built in.

Could have the mirror facing the back of the phone to protect it. Just take the case off to use.


Seems there were cases with mirrors built in and a bit of storage space, which looks like might fit a discreet fire starting kit.

https://www.eynproducts.com/collections/eyn-storage-cases



Edited by Ren (07/09/21 05:53 PM)

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#299302 - 07/09/21 06:14 AM Re: Signal Mirror Success (Miracle) 3/26/2021 [Re: rafowell]
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Kind of neat. Not a signal mirror but it would work just fine I imagine.
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