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#296167 - 05/19/20 05:28 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Herman30 Offline
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I like to go the route of thinking about how to fullfill the biggest necessitys whicch in my opinnion is shelter from the elements, warmth, water, food. In that order.

Well if you are in a desert enviroment then warmth is something to shield you from (rather than what you need) and water is more important.

So somekind of small tarp and ability to make fire, a knife and water is more important than a a box full of small trinkets. And food is something a human can survive without for weeks.



This kit will give you a good start: poncho, fire making kit, a knife.

The poncho: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2474/6...pg?v=1581024681


Edited by Herman30 (05/19/20 05:41 PM)

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#296168 - 05/19/20 06:54 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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"Well if you are in a desert enviroment then warmth is something to shield you from (rather than what you need) and water is more important."

Correct, up to a point. Many are surprised to realize that deserts can become bitterly cold - rapid diurnal swings resulting from low humidity. elevation plays a role, as well.

In Tucson, AZ,temps into the 20F range were not at all uncommon, and even colder has been endured. Of course, it does warm up and get nice and toasty during the day.

Water is indeed very important, in ways that might surprise you. In my time in SAR in southern AZ, the number two cause of death was crowning, just barely surpassed by falls. Flash floods and high wter are real killers.


Edited by hikermor (05/19/20 06:57 PM)
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#296169 - 05/19/20 10:41 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Ren Offline
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If you wanted a small sharpener, then I'd suggest DMT is a better brand.

https://www.dmtsharp.com/sharpeners/pocket-models/

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#296170 - 05/19/20 10:51 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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The DMTs may be better- I've never compared them directly to the card linked above- but the neat thing is the form factor of the card. I'm not a big fan of diamond sharpeners for the most part. They work phenomenally well for flattening water stones but I generally only use them for a few sharpening applications. The Japanese Atoma plates are much better for sharpening than a DMT and will outlast them by several times. Nothing wrong with a diamond sharpener though for a small kit.

That said, I don't generally see much need to sharpen a knife in the field. Maybe if you only had one knife or tool and had to use it for weeks on end or even months, it might be nice to be able to touch it up. My habit is to have multiple cutting tools and I generally favor knives with steels that will hold an edge longer (eg REX-45, 154CM, HAP40, M390, etc).
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#296173 - 05/19/20 11:04 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Ren Offline
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DMT makes cards.

When was volunteering for conservation work, I'd at least sharpen tools twice a day. Whether they'd be axes, slashers or billhooks.

Just used to take an puck stone, and a canoe stone for the slasher.

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#296191 - 05/21/20 02:45 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: hikermor]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
Obviously, the proper course of action is for one of us to step up to the plate, buy some of these products, evaluate, and report back to the forum.

Do you want me to review the gear I buy?

Jeanette Isabelle
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#296192 - 05/21/20 05:47 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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I would think that one of the best functions of this forum would be for any of us to pass on information about products, procedures, etc. that function well in the conditions for which they are designed.

If you have actually purchased and used these, your insights and information are welcome, of course. I am particularly interested in the potential application of the double "finishing hooks."

If you have not purchased these, please do not bother to do so. They offer little to nothing that would be of immediate value in the initial, critical stages of a survival situation.
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#296196 - 05/21/20 09:12 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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I do think it's very useful when we post feedback of the stuff we test. I'd trust the group here more than I trust commercial reviews from folks that get a slice of the sales of the stuff they "review".
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#296197 - 05/21/20 09:14 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Yes, please, Jeanette_Isabelle. I for one would like that a lot.

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#296232 - 05/26/20 10:05 PM Re: Survival Cards [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
CJK Offline
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Posts: 587
Loc: FL, USA
I will echo Chaosmagnet....if you have the time and (willing money) to do so, I too would enjoy it. Do not feel compelled if it is not in the means. Thank you.

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