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#293197 - 09/01/19 02:50 PM Buck Knives 110, Oak 5160
Russ Offline
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What’s old is new again... Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 High Carbon. It’s a classic old school steel with a classic handle material.

Until this morning I didn’t know the Buck 110 was available in 5160 so I ordered one in Oak. After ordering I noticed the Oak is Oak Dymondwood. It’s also available in Charcoal Dymondwood and with a drop point in G10, Charcoal and Oak Dymondwood. So what’s Dymondwood?
Dymondwood Handle Material
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”Diamondply is a laminated material that is made by dying thin layers of hardwoods and layering them together with resign and pressing them all together under extreme pressure and heat.”

Oak has certain properties that allow it to age and take on a personality which made it a good match with the 5160 steel. I’m not sure that oak colored dymondwood will be quite the same. Hopefully it will feel like wood and not the bonding resin.

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#293198 - 09/01/19 03:34 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: Russ]
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My 110 is on the table as I was reading this. I don't recall exactly how I received mine, but it has a blade of some sort of stainless steel and dark wood scales (non-laminated as far as I can tell). Nice solid knife, but a tad on the heavy side.

I'll bet both yours and mine will slice the bologna and cheese just fine. Really classic cutlery...
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#293199 - 09/01/19 03:39 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: Russ]
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I still have one from the early 1970s. Still in good shape, though it has been sharpened a good bit.

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#293214 - 09/02/19 05:55 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: gonewiththewind]
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Early 1970’s... IIRC the ‘70’s era Buck 110 came with 440C blades rather than the 420HC used now. The Paul Bos heat treat does wonders for 420HC though.

I have a couple 110’s from the Buck custom shop with BG-42 steel. And one from ?Cabela’s? in S30V. This new one in 5160 is almost as tight as the Custom shop knives and unlike one review on Amazon, the blade is well centered. The wood is oak colored, but it’s not Oak. Nice knife.
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#293215 - 09/02/19 06:15 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: Russ]
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Russ, would you know if 440C was used in other models, specifically the 105 Pathfinder, back then? i have a 105 from 1972 and it is a fine knife, cuts the cheese nicely, so my interest is strictly academic....
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#293218 - 09/02/19 08:12 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: hikermor]
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It would make sense for Buck to standardize the steel they use in production models.

There’s a post on Bladeforums that may answer: Buck 105 Steel

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#293224 - 09/03/19 02:10 AM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: Russ]
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Thank you for the informative reference. I have had this knife for years and it still gets nice and sharp, even if it isn't some super duper new variety of steel.
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#293225 - 09/03/19 02:25 AM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: hikermor]
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440C is a good steel for well suited to many uses. Better than 420HC imo, although possibly less corrosion resistant and maybe slightly less tough. That’s all in the heat treatment though.
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#293231 - 09/03/19 12:49 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: Russ]
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Mine has been in a salt, coastal environment for m.ore than thirty years, and is showing absolutely no corrosion or damage, although not used on a daily basis
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#293233 - 09/03/19 02:32 PM Re: Buck Knives 110 Oak 5160 [Re: Russ]
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http://myarmoury.com/feature_bladehardness.php

For most of history, there was no available objective data on blade hardness, steel composition or heat treating and tempering techniques. Smiths worked the available metal into shapes that seemed to work and to please the customer. They made some pretty good knives, and some poor ones. Folks used the knives until they wore out, and got replacements. If the knife held an edge poorly, it got sharpened more often, If it was too brittle, it was broken and replaced.

Arguably, the least expensive knives currently available are of better steel than the best knives of the past. And yet, the old knives seemed to get all the cutting done that needed doing.

I guess this is a third world argument in a first world debate. OTOH, in a discussion about Randall knives with a Marine friend he observed that a Randall knife was a fine item, but it didn't make you any taller.

He was pretty Zen, for a Marine.
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