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#293601 - 09/28/19 06:36 PM New stab proof knives should help with safety
clearwater Offline
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Like the sailing ships of old which required sailors to knock the tips off their knives, here is a safety feature designed to stop knife violence.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09...d-combat-knife/

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#293607 - 09/28/19 07:39 PM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: clearwater]
Herman30 Online   content
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But pointless knives are still possible to slash with.
With a pointless knife it is impossible to dice onions properly.


Edited by Herman30 (09/28/19 07:42 PM)

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#293613 - 09/29/19 01:25 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: clearwater]
haertig Offline
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How silly. That's not going to stop violence in any way. I feel sorry for people that believe it will.

On the other hand, I might buy such a knife for my own personal use. Not as my main knife, but as a specialized knife for certain tasks (like cutting bread). I certainly wouldn't buy it for it's violence-stopping properties, which would be nil.

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#293614 - 09/29/19 01:58 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: haertig]
Russ Offline
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I’m sure that a Miyabi Evolution Santoku would be perfectly safe...


It has no point so it’s obviously only good for vegetables wink They cut onions just fine cool

(Note: from what I gather, the FC61 steel used by Miyabi is a Sandvik product which is essentially identical to Bohler’s AEB-L. IME it holds a wicked edge.)

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#293615 - 09/29/19 02:53 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: Russ]
haertig Offline
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Originally Posted By: Russ
It has no point...

It has quite the point. Are we looking at the same picture?

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#293616 - 09/29/19 04:06 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: haertig]
Russ Offline
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LOL — Okay, less pointy than a good Chefs knife.

The Miyabi Evolution Nakiri Knife otoh is way less pointy.

Point being, those knives cut with their edge and whatever point they retain is secondary.
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#293618 - 09/29/19 04:24 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: clearwater]
Phaedrus Offline
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I weep for the people of England if this is what they've been reduced to. Pity they don't have an analog to KnifeRights.org across the pond (note- I realize they have nothing akin to our 2nd Amendment).
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#293620 - 09/29/19 06:59 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: clearwater]
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There is no way they are going to stop violence. It will allways excist as long as there are people who wish to use violence. If a total ban on all knives would come then criminals start making their own. It´s not that hard to take a piece of metal and make a rudimentf stabbing tool out of it. A normal screwdriver will suffice with the point sharpened with a file.

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#293621 - 09/29/19 07:09 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: clearwater]
M_a_x Offline
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Stab proofing is fairly old:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florett#/media/Datei:Florett.jpg
Getting hit while not wearing proper armour will still cause considerable blunt force injuries. Of course criminals will refrain from taking the protection off or even reshape the tip.
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#293622 - 09/29/19 07:39 AM Re: New stab proof knives should help with safety [Re: Herman30]
M_a_x Offline
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You do not need to sharpen the point. With some force and momentum the point will penetrate deeply. The wound is nastier though. I have seen such wounds caused in workplace accindents where people slipped with screwdriver and stabbed themselves.
Potential stabbing tools are sold in almost all hardware stores. If you do not want to go for expensive tools, you can buy 9" nails by the pound.
I have seen a documetary about a town in Scotland where they tackled knife crimes with a totally different approach. They installed a program to give the youth a better perspective by educating them and help them find a job. The documentary said that they actually were successful. They may be onto something.
The British have my pity. I hope that does not spill over to continental Europe.
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