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#293216 - 09/02/19 06:22 PM Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire
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https://ktla.com/2019/09/02/crews-rescui...nd-coast-guard/

News about this tragedy has been coming out in bits and pieces this morning. It doesn't look good for those still missing since sleeping quarters below decks on most dive boats can be charitably described as "compact."

I have been at sea on the other Truth Aquatic boats and they have been piloted in an excellent manner. This is a real tragedy.
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#293217 - 09/02/19 07:50 PM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: hikermor]
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How terrible! Hopefully there will be more survivors but...
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#293226 - 09/03/19 03:24 AM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: Phaedrus]
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34 Reported Dead In Ventura County Dive-Boat Fire
Quote:
...five crew members able to disembark...
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#293227 - 09/03/19 04:53 AM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: hikermor]
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Wow, almost the worst case scenario. I wonder how the fire started?
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#293229 - 09/03/19 12:17 PM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: hikermor]
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very sad. from the bunk layout it appears that they didn't have much of a chance.

bunk layout
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#293230 - 09/03/19 12:47 PM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: hikermor]
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On almost any vessel, you don't want to be below decks when a fire breaks out, or during any other emergency, for that matter.
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#293260 - 09/04/19 12:42 AM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: Phaedrus]
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Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
Wow, almost the worst case scenario. I wonder how the fire started?


Hmm,
statistics say ,
overheating,
from old cables/electronics
or from engine cooling getting blocked

boatus.com/magazine/ causes of boat fires

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#293261 - 09/04/19 01:08 AM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
On almost any vessel, you don't want to be below decks when a fire breaks out, or during any other emergency, for that matter.

the boat and owner, by way of reference, have apparently always been at the top of their game. no question. if there was an issue, they'd fix it. passed uscg inspections. according to the uscg today they did have smoke detectors on the boat.

but to have only one escape route, for all intents and purposes, for all of those folks?

you know, we read about ferry boat accidents that happen in other countries. i had always wondered how that could happen, and that so many people could die, until i was on one of those ferrys earlier this year. five times. and each time i realized that if an accident or issue were to arise i was dead. so many people, too few exits.

i cannot imagine a more terrifying way to die than those poor folks on the Conception.
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#293262 - 09/04/19 01:30 AM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: hikermor]
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Yeah, truly a terrible way to go. Burned alive surrounded by quadrillions of gallons of water.
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#293265 - 09/04/19 02:29 AM Re: Santa Cruz Island Boat Fire [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
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Since the fire broke out at 3 AM in a vessel anchored for the evening, the engine causes are unlikely. Very preliminary speculation involves the galley in some manner.

It will be difficult to determine since the vessel must be raised from water 60 feet deep. Hopefully clues remain
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