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#293042 - 08/18/19 05:22 PM Re: Echo-Sigma Backpacks [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
We are really talking past one another.

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Originally Posted By: hikermor
What you will learn by buying this kit is that you will have wasted your money.

One thing I learned is that it takes money to learn. Something else I learned is don't go cheap while learning. Otherwise, I will spend more in the long run.

I don't consider that wasting money. Sure, I may think that at first after everything is said and done; in every situation, I recognized I would not have learned how to do it right any other way had I not spent the money on my education. Let me say this again, when doing something new for the first time, don't go cheap.

Originally Posted By: hikermor
This assemblage lacks many critical items (map?compass?) and includes many that are ineffective (hand warmers and chem lights).

As for a compass among other things, that is the purpose of the PSP. As for a map, that is a very geographic specific item and it will change.

As for light sticks, others, besides myself, have vouched for them.

Originally Posted By: hikermor
The best way to test whatever you start with is to get out an use it. Start with day hies, lengthen them and get into overnight and longer backpacking trips.

You're beginning to describe my EDC bag. I built it when I lived in Dallas when an unexpected overnighter was the norm. Sometimes I would be in a house without electricity, running water or when we drove to Malissa's house, we had neither.

Originally Posted By: hikermor
For post graduate work, volunteer with a SAR unit and get first hand experience with realemergencies.

In case you forgot, I have to be medicated if I have to be in a car for more than a few miles.

Originally Posted By: hikermor
End of rant, I will say no more...

What rant?

Jeanette Isabelle
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#293043 - 08/18/19 05:48 PM Re: Echo-Sigma Backpacks [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5227
Loc: SOCAL
The PSP compass was selected for size, not utility. It’s good for a button compass and might keep you walking in a somewhat straight line, but it’s not really adequate for orienteering/navigation. A real compass such as the Suunto M-3D will serve much better for navigation. That’s just one example, The Compass Store has a good selection.

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#293044 - 08/18/19 05:56 PM Re: Echo-Sigma Backpacks [Re: Russ]
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If I think I will need a real compass, I will include that too.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#293114 - 08/27/19 11:39 PM Re: Echo-Sigma Backpacks [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Jeanette_Isabelle Online   content
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I received the contents yesterday and the pack today. After assembling the kit, I had less space than what I had expected. Perhaps with rearranging, I can get the stove to fit.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#293122 - 08/28/19 01:45 PM Re: Echo-Sigma Backpacks [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Registered: 06/02/06
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Loc: SOCAL
I ordered a County Comm Bail Out Bag, Gen 8 this morning. My arithmetic indicates the bag is 1386 ci not counting the end pockets and the admin section. It looks to be well thought out and IME County Comm nylon bags are very well built, good materials and strong. There’s a video walk-thru of the bag at the link above.
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Okay, what’s your point??

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#293124 - 08/28/19 02:37 PM Re: Echo-Sigma Backpacks [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3214
Loc: USA
I've been eyeballing that bag since last night, Russ. I have had two of their previous-gen bags and they're both great.

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