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#292208 - 04/21/19 09:16 PM Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate
Russ Offline
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The latest version of Firefox keeps showing me links to various articles on getpocket.com. The original article of one of the latest is: How to Start a Fire, Plus 15 Other Outdoor Skills That Aren't Complicated

The answers to some of the questions are almost tongue in cheek...
Quote:
#7. Build a Shelter
Create a large pile of leaves, grasses, and other debris. Crawl inside.

#8. Find Food
You won’t starve to death for two weeks or more. Spend your time finding help, not food.

#9. Walk Out
Stay with your vehicle and wait for rescue if at all possible. If not, walk downhill until you find water or a creekbed. Follow that downstream until you find a road. Congrats, you’re no longer lost.

The section on first aid is a little sparse to say the least. Other things like walking out deserve a caveat to not die of exposure in the process. Go early while you still have strength or don’t go at all.

They need a #16 regarding when to activate your PLB...


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#292209 - 04/22/19 02:37 AM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: Russ]
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#9 is a whopper! I can think of many situations where walking downhill is absolutely the wrong thing to do.
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#292210 - 04/22/19 04:58 AM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: hikermor]
Phaedrus Offline
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
#9 is a whopper! I can think of many situations where walking downhill is absolutely the wrong thing to do.


I guess the author never heard the term "gravity trap" before.
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#292213 - 04/22/19 04:45 PM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: Russ]
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I was going to say, about 90% of searches (and fatalities in winter) near Donner pass and the Squaw/Alpine ski areas at Lake Tahoe, CA are from people heading off the backside downhill into massive drainages that can go 100 miles before reaching civilization (the Western States 100 mile foot race follows one drainage). Try that in 2 feet of fresh snow and you are doomed.

If people would just climb back up the quarter mile to the road or ski trail, they would be fine.

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#292217 - 04/23/19 02:31 AM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: clearwater]
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#2 is a little dodgy as well. It's a bigger deal not to pitch your tent where a flash flood will sweep you way and to make sure you're not under a "widowmaker" than it is to make sure you're not sleeping on small rocks!
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#292219 - 04/23/19 06:53 AM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: clearwater]
Herman30 Offline
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Originally Posted By: clearwater
massive drainages

I don´t quite understand what this "drainage" is in this context. A quick explanation, please?


Edited by Herman30 (04/23/19 06:55 AM)

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#292220 - 04/23/19 01:13 PM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: Russ]
hikermor Offline
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"drainage" equals "watershed" - the area "drained' eventually by a stream and its tributaries.
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#292226 - 04/23/19 07:02 PM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: hikermor]
Roarmeister Offline
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
#9 is a whopper! I can think of many situations where walking downhill is absolutely the wrong thing to do.


How about Death Valley?

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#292227 - 04/23/19 07:45 PM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: Russ]
Herman30 Offline
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OK, thanks! Now I´m on the map.

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#292237 - 04/26/19 11:03 PM Re: Basic Survival Skills that shouldn’t be complicate [Re: Russ]
MDinana Offline
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That whole article was a bag of WTF.

The "go downhill" wasn't necessarily wrong, just imparts a sense of false security.


I mean, 100 miles to a road still gets you to a road ... the article didn't specify a distance. Or other issues. Just throw your trash pile home together and you'll be fine. (eyeroll)

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