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#289769 - 07/06/18 12:41 AM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: TeacherRO]
ireckon Offline
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If there is a hotel or similar around for me to swipe my credit card, I don’t consider that a survival situation, or at least it would not be difficult to improvise and stay alive.

Maybe we should have a sub-forum “Equipped to be Comfortable”.
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#289770 - 07/06/18 01:42 AM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: TeacherRO]
Montanero Offline
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Registered: 10/14/08
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Loc: North Carolina
It is just using the available resources to the best of your ability. If you are properly equipped, what could have been a survival situation becomes an unplanned night of camping.

Be aware of what is available and know how to use it.

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#289777 - 07/06/18 01:08 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: Montanero]
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Originally Posted By: Montanero
It is just using the available resources to the best of your ability. If you are properly equipped, what could have been a survival situation becomes an unplanned night of camping.

Be aware of what is available and know how to use it.


Excellent, and crucial, point. There is a continuum, ranging from delightful outings to camping trips with fatalities. Sometimes you have to endure melted ice cream, or,even worse, someone forgot the coffee. Eventually one learns to take a flashlight, even though the hike should end well before dark - also matches and extra water, etc.

Most of us learn this the hard way (myself definitely included) without suffering dire consequences...
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#289780 - 07/06/18 05:34 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: TeacherRO]
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Whoever forgets the coffee is already in a life or death survival situation if they are with me.

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#289782 - 07/06/18 07:47 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: Montanero]
hikermor Offline
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You are safe with me.. Via packets are in all my emergency kits, partly for morale and partly because a bit of a caffeine boost might be just the ticket is some situations.
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#289783 - 07/06/18 08:10 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: hikermor]
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Registered: 06/02/06
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... “because a bit of a caffeine boost might be just the ticket” ... every day first thing in the morning. Fixed it, you can thank me later smile

I keep Via in the truck’s food stock.

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#289786 - 07/06/18 08:17 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: Russ]
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You are absolutely right...Mea culpa...I stand corrected.

I must not have had enough coffee this morning.


Edited by hikermor (07/06/18 08:27 PM)
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#289964 - 07/18/18 07:03 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: TeacherRO]
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Yes, I carry caffeine pills.

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#290111 - 07/30/18 10:35 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: TeacherRO]
amper Offline
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Registered: 07/06/02
Posts: 187
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
...and even if you are 20 and fit, you're not carrying an 88 liter bag any distance.


Not if it's filled with water, but my 90+15 L Lowe Alpine Contour IV bag is quite comfortable when filled with a 50 lb load.
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#290112 - 07/30/18 10:41 PM Re: New bag thinking: BOB GHB realism [Re: TeacherRO]
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My ditty bag, which also serves as my EDC survival kit and lives in my handbag, at this very moment weighs 14.8 ounces, and yes, it contains a large ferrocerium rod, as well as a diamond-coated steel credit card-sized DiaSharp sharpening stone. Will I likely need these in my small town, if I were forced to walk the 2 miles from my office to my home, even in Winter? Probably not, but my handbag isn't onerous to carry.


Edited by amper (07/30/18 10:42 PM)
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