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#289603 - 06/23/18 10:40 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
quick_joey_small Offline
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> Or at the very least, delete the posts from the one who is trying to divert and ruin it.

UTAlumnus is entitled to state his opinions as much as anyone else while the post is active.

qjs


Edited by quick_joey_small (06/23/18 10:48 PM)

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#289604 - 06/23/18 10:42 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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> What does your post have to do with a tribute to a gracious man who has died, and whose death brought sadness to many?

If you are entitled to call him 'gracious' aren't I entitled to point out he backed an unprovoked attack on another nation justified on fraudulent evidence?

Why should your opinion of him be allowed, but my citing the actual facts not be?

qjs


Edited by quick_joey_small (06/23/18 10:44 PM)

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#289605 - 06/23/18 11:00 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: quick_joey_small]
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As long as we’re discussing actual facts... What actual facts are you certain he knew at the time, 2002? Not the facts “known” with 20/20 hindsight like so many who discuss Iraq’s WMD’s, but with facts known at the time of the invasion by the media. What do you know that they knew then?

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#289606 - 06/23/18 11:06 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Is this how it will be every time I celebrate the 70th birthday of a nation or honor a person who has passed away?

Jeanette Isabelle
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“Trust me, this is not gonna end well!” — Pleakley, Lilo & Stitch

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#289607 - 06/23/18 11:16 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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>As long as we’re discussing actual facts... What actual facts are you certain he knew at the time, 2002? Not the facts “known” with 20/20 hindsight like so many who discuss Iraq’s WMD’s, but with facts known at the time of the invasion by the media. What do you know that they knew then?

As I said in an earlier post. BEFORE the invasion in 2003 the inspectors said they were finding nothing. They went to the top 40 sites the CIA said 'we KNOW he has WMD sites here' and there was nothing. They carried on searching and found nothing and reported this. It's not true that only with hindsight do we know this. It was announced by the weapons inspectors BEFORE the invasion. This was clearly reported in the media.

Anyway you've all got your wish. I'm leaving this thread.
It seemsThere's no use pointing out the actual facts about what really happened.

qjs

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#289608 - 06/23/18 11:30 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: quick_joey_small]
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Originally Posted By: quick_joey_small
It seemsThere's no use pointing out the actual facts about what really happened.

The thread is about the too-soon passing of Charles Krauthammer. The Earth's centrifugal force must have surged, flinging you off in some unexpected tangent direction. WMD apparently.

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#289609 - 06/23/18 11:34 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: haertig]
pforeman Offline
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HEY! Politics - knock it off. The moderator is going to kill this thread and that is as it should be.

We all have people/personalities we admire and are saddened by their passing. If we disagree with some of what they may represent - it may also be that they represent many other qualities and can be respected and/or admired for them.

Charles Krauthammer has made me reflect, think and reconsider many different things - this is good. Let's leave it at that and DROP THE POLITICS!

Thank you.

Paul -

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#289612 - 06/23/18 11:44 PM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Russ Offline
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I’d be good with deleting everything after the OP cartoon.

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#289614 - 06/24/18 12:25 AM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: quick_joey_small]
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Originally Posted By: quick_joey_small
UTAlumnus is entitled to state his opinions as much as anyone else while the post is active.

I wasn't referring about UTAlumnus...

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#289615 - 06/24/18 12:33 AM Re: A Tribute to Charles Krauthammer [Re: quick_joey_small]
haertig Offline
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Originally Posted By: quick_joey_small
Why should your opinion of him be allowed, but my citing the actual facts not be?

It is called being gracious. Most people do not feel the need to immediately speak ill of someone who has just passed. You highlight the good, and accept that nobody is perfect. Which means that there will be some things that you disagree with. That comes with being human. At your funeral, would you yourself be able to withstand the litmus test that you are trying to apply here, to the satisfaction of everyone on the planet?

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