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#288021 - 01/25/18 11:21 PM Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar
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https://www.homedepot.com/p/Dasco-Pro-Pry-Bar-Set-3-Piece-91/202585548

This is representative ofa pry bar set which is readily available at lots of outlets. I am putting it up because having one of these can save a good blade a lot of grief. They are quite cheap and weigh very little,if that is a factor. My experience is that they are worth having around.

I do a fair amount of digging, going after archaeological materials and the occasional fossil and I find tese handy, especially the largest in situations where I might other wise be digging with a perfectly good knife in the dirt, prying up lids, and similar tasks. The smaller ones are quite handy around camp, again saving wear and tear on a nice knife.

If I could have just one tool, it would be a good sturdy, tough knife but if I am not so restricted, one of these would find it way into my pack...

This is inspired by Montanero's post in the "new knife" thread in which he discusses really extreme knife usage and the brands that stand up to such usage. An actual prybar can save you a lot of time and money...And of course they can be modified for specific purposes very easily and cheaply.
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#288022 - 01/25/18 11:59 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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That’s a nice set and the price is right. If I didn’t already have all those pry bars (Stanley or Vaughn) I’d buy that set, it’s on-the-shelf at the local HD.

The Stanley FUBAR Demolition Bar is another good choice, but it’s not on the shelf at Home Depot.
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#288026 - 01/26/18 03:54 AM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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I do carry a small pry bar when I can afford the weight. I have a couple in my vehicle. Yes, I admit that I have abused knives in the past. Yes, I admit that a previous experience has caused me to POSSIBLY overreact in my acquisition of knives.

Hi, my name is Montanero and I am a knife addict. I began my habit after breaking perfectly good knives by using them for things that they were not intended to be used for.

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#288028 - 01/26/18 04:36 AM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: gonewiththewind]
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Originally Posted By: Montanero
Hi, my name is Montanero and I am a knife addict. I began my habit after breaking perfectly good knives by using them for things that they were not intended to be used for.


Hi, Montanero!

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#288029 - 01/26/18 04:52 AM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: gonewiththewind]
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I was looking over some of my blades and wondering at their fate in your hands, Montanero. I have a Kabar, 4"blade, 1/8" thick, full tang obviously, because the tang is the handle (scales are optional), D2 steel. What would one have to do to this knife to trash it? If I putit in my vise and hit it with a sledge hammer, I think the vise would give way first, but you have seriously, and for good cause, broken some pretty stout stuff. What does it take? )Inquiring minds want to know...)

I also have a Buck 105 which is stated to have a full tang. Did you stress any Bucks? I am not going to hammer on this particular blade because I have had it for 46 years - sentimental value. I know it can do more than spread peanut butter...
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#288033 - 01/26/18 12:58 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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The old Kabars were not full tang.

I drop tested a Buckmaster from 6 feet onto concrete and it broke into 3 pieces. It was owned by a Navy SEAL and we compared my Gerber BMF and his Buckmaster. My Gerber BMF did not break.

Putting a knife in a vise and hitting it with a sledgehammer is about the only thing I did not do. I pounded knives into a wood fence post and then stood on the handle, jumping up and down, I pounded the BMF into a crack in some rocks and then hung three grown men on a rope around the handle, I stabbed them through car doors and then tested sharpness. That was all testing, and my Gerber BMF and Cold Steel Recon Tanto both held up.

The Kabars I broke and bent in the field were from prying and cutting through doors, digging or opening Soviet type ammo cans and boxes.

I never broke a Buck folder, they were pretty tough. But I never tested it either.

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#288034 - 01/26/18 01:49 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: gonewiththewind]
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Very informative and interesting! I have placed knife blade pitons in rocks, but never an actual knife. Your real world results are really helpful.
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#288035 - 01/26/18 02:23 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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Are titanium pry bars avaiable? Is it a good choice?
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#288036 - 01/26/18 02:39 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: quick_joey_small]
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Do a search for “titanium pry bars” on Amazon and you’ll get an assortment. Not cheap...

The titanium pry bar I use is from CountyComm - CountyComm Titanium Widgy Pry Bars
The 2” model is good for a key-ring, opening lids and other small stuff to save your nails.

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#288037 - 01/26/18 02:39 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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How hard and flexible is titanium?

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#288038 - 01/26/18 02:45 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: gonewiththewind]
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Originally Posted By: Montanero
How hard and flexible is titanium?

Hard: IMO not enough Rc to make a durable cutting edge, but they are not magnetic and they don’t corrode.
Flexible: I have a couple Ti key rings and tweezers. They do their job and return to original shape. But I don’t test (over-stress) them to find their limitations.

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#288040 - 01/26/18 03:05 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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I love the weight of titanium and I'm horrified at the price, for a pry bar. Other (smaller!) titanium tools I've owned were not, perhaps, as rugged as I would have liked them to be.

Titanium pens are an addiction for me though.

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#288044 - 01/26/18 08:01 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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Titanium bars
https://www.stiletto.com/c-12-titanium-bars.aspx

I guess the relative shortness limits how much force they have to endure.

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#288047 - 01/26/18 09:01 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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None of the links here show truly tactical prybars. As we all know, tactical means black. I'll be glad to sell you tactical black paint to overcome this incredible shortcoming. Even the lettering on the can is black on black, for a more authentic tactical feel.

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#288048 - 01/26/18 09:30 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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To be TRUELY tactical it needs a Picatinney rail system, and a cordura sheath with velcro.

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#288058 - 01/27/18 01:01 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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I can't find a mention of size or weight in the pry bar link, but I do have several full-size versions of these "modern" pry bars and LOVE them.

BUT years back when hand digging for our barn's frost-proof water hydrant (many years ago) we found only one hand tool that could dig through the heavy midwestern clay --- a non-curved claw hammer. We basically used the claw like a small pick and chipped away at the stubborn clay just a bit at a time - using a shovel to remove the chips from the trench.

I never had - nor tried - using a full sized pick, but I suspect the weight would have tired us out faster in the long run.

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#288059 - 01/27/18 01:05 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: KenK]
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9.5”, 7.5” & 5.5” — enlarge the picture and it’s printed on the prybars.

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#288061 - 01/27/18 04:10 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: Bingley]
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Originally Posted By: Bingley
None of the links here show truly tactical prybars. As we all know, tactical means black. I'll be glad to sell you tactical black paint to overcome this incredible shortcoming. Even the lettering on the can is black on black, for a more authentic tactical feel.


Is this the black 2.0 I've been hearing about? wink

Absorbs 99.4% of light, so completely hides any surface contours of an object that is painted with it.

Eg. Ping pong ball

https://youtu.be/AaFdCvnV8PM?t=30s

Just looks like a 2 dimensional black dot.

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#288062 - 01/27/18 05:24 PM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: Ren]
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Originally Posted By: Ren


Is this the black 2.0 I've been hearing about? wink

Absorbs 99.4% of light, so completely hides any surface contours of an object that is painted with it.


This is not the Tactical Survival Pry bar you are looking for...
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#288067 - 01/28/18 12:12 AM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
This is not the Tactical Survival Pry bar you are looking for...


The force is strong with this one!

heh heh

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#288068 - 01/28/18 12:25 AM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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You could shove the pointy end at someone and they wouldn't realise it was pointy as they just see a dot smile

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#288069 - 01/28/18 02:40 AM Re: Tactical Survival Sharpened Prybar [Re: hikermor]
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Hard to see this prybar is.

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