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#28754 - 06/30/04 10:07 PM CIA Survival Operation?
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Also, I have been looking for combat, survival, training, emergency preparedness, sniper ebooks and I found these rather inexpensive ones for only $2.99 apiece. I downloaded the one on CIA PSYOPS and it was actually pretty comprehensive. Have the CIA really been involved in all of the secret operations this book says they have???

http://www.bardito.com/data/psyops.html

--Hannibal22

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#28755 - 06/30/04 10:41 PM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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Registered: 02/09/01
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It's not a secret if somebody is writing about it. Disinformation and denial serve well to conceal true operations. Is Area 51 a testbed for state of the art aircraft and UFO's a smokescrean? Or, are the exotic aircraft the technical equal of a SPAD X111 compared to the anti gravity interdimesional saucers of rumour? I can't even get the radio to work in my old Volvo so I leave it to others. Thanks for the link. iineresting <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#28756 - 07/01/04 04:39 AM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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Registered: 08/22/01
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Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#28757 - 07/01/04 04:47 AM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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<<<QUOTE: I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you >>>

How 'bout just a hint and only beat me up? <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#28758 - 07/01/04 04:11 PM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
aardwolfe:

Of course you realize that one of your current or former fellow agents would have to kill you for telling him in the first place, and then that agent would have to be killed in case he talked to you before you died, and the agent that killed him would have to be--------------------ad infinitim.

I heard or read somewhere that Egytian kings killed builders of the pyrmiads, then killed the executioners, then killed the executioners of the executioners to the third level in attempts to maintain construction secrets of the tombs. Anyone know if this is true? Reminds me of an old Gene Hackman & Mickey Rooney film whose name escapes me, as well as "The Parallex View" film which starred Warren Beatty.

Being an assasin is not as profitable or romantic as the one portrayed on "Three Days of The Condor", with Robert Redford.

Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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#28759 - 07/01/04 04:35 PM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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<<<QUOTE: Reminds me of an old Gene Hackman & Mickey Rooney film whose name escapes me, >>>

That would be The Dominoe Principle. Good flick

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#28760 - 07/01/04 07:46 PM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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Registered: 01/07/04
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The Soviets also Did this in Russia and Eastern Europe. Such as the Katyn Massacre in Poland. As Did the Mao Red Chinese, and Cambodian Khmer Rouge! Earlier Chinese Emporers too!

I Mean Not to be Passing Comments on various Countries, -But Here it's Only a Fact, and Unavoidable as So.

I'm Not Surprised if Pyramid Builders Did so! But They are Not our World's Only Ones!

Assuming such Executioners even had a Clue that They Themselves would in Turn be Executed! (Which I Often Doubt!, -"Keep Em in the Dark!, -Why Tell Them?!"), -

-I Think it'd Come Down to a Hobson's Choice of, "Do you Want to Die / Be Executed, -Now or Later?!" (A Skitter Off Refusal to Carry Out your Orders *to* Execute Others, -of course Bringing that About!). A Real Catch 22! But the Only Thing One Could Best Adjudge to Do in such a Situation!, -is to Opt to Die Later!

Of course again, -In All Liklihood, -They Weren't even so Told! [color:"black"] [/color] [email]bountyhunter[/email]
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#28761 - 07/01/04 11:06 PM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 924
Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
This sounds suspiciously like the cannibalism myths found throughout history, where one race/tribe/group demonized their opponents by telling stories of horrible atrocities. Similar to the more modern "premature babies removed from incubators and left to die" story that was told about Iraqi troops in Kuwait (and which subsequently turned out to be a lie).

The problem with this type of scheme would be that sooner or later, one or more of the executioners are going to figure out what's going on. There was a movie starring Pierce Brosnan as a KGB agent who was assigned to set off an atomic bomb in the heart of England (presumably to look like a terrorist attack). On several occasions, he received orders - which he dutifully carried out - to kill the person he had been working with to prevent them from talking afterwards. But of course, being no dummy, he clued in at the end that, if they were killing off everyone who knew about the scheme - and he knew about the scheme - then there really wasn't likely to be a ten-minute delay on the bomb trigger to allow him to escape.

Somehow, I think letting a sociopathic, highly-trained killer know that you were planning to double-cross and murder him would backfire more often than not <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

(Of course, I *have* to say that <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )
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#28762 - 07/01/04 11:22 PM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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And some...I'm sure they didn't mention failures, embarrassments, or really nasty "wet work" op.s. <img src="/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

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#28763 - 07/02/04 03:19 AM Re: CIA Survival Operation?
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Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
You gotta be thinking the "Bay of Pigs" fiasco!

Bountyhunter

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