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#284903 - 07/08/17 08:08 PM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
Roarmeister Offline
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Registered: 09/12/01
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Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: EMPnotImplyNuclear
Originally Posted By: Montanero
You don't have to be faster than the bear, only faster than your hiking buddy!

Which buddy?

Mother? Father? Sister? Brother? Wife? Son? Daughter? ...



Me probably. I'm always the slowest one in the group. smile
Just call me "Dinner".

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#284905 - 07/08/17 10:46 PM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: Roarmeister]
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 952
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Originally Posted By: Roarmeister
Originally Posted By: hikermor
Do put bear attacks in perspective. You are much more likely to suffer an injury/fatality from falls, drowning, or motor vehicle accidents than from a bear attack. In a typical year, honey bees kill more people than bears. overall, bear attacks are unusual, which is why they are reported in thee media....


From a statistical POV and living in an urban environment, I would agree with you. But when you are in bear country, you odds go way up.


LIke Mtn Lion, if you live or work where they are, you exposure is a lot more.

Two local biologists- one has killed two cougars stalking him, another used pepper spray three times on stalking lions.

Right now I wouldn't be walking my dog nearby the Priest lake Ranger Station in Idaho.

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#284906 - 07/09/17 02:35 AM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: hikermor]
Phaedrus Online   content
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Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 1905
Loc: Great Plains
Originally Posted By: hikermor
Do put bear attacks in perspective. You are much more likely to suffer an injury/fatality from falls, drowning, or motor vehicle accidents than from a bear attack. In a typical year, honey bees kill more people than bears. overall, bear attacks are unusual, which is why they are reported in thee media....


I don't want to hype the danger, but as a couple others have commented statistics don't tell the whole story. Maybe only one in a few million folks get attacked by a bear but consider how many bears there are in Chicago, L.A., NYC, Miami, etc. If you're hiking in Olympic Natl Park our odds of encountering a bear go up quite a bit.

Obsessing over bear attacks is silly but this place is called ETS! That means being prepared for the situations we can reasonably foresee. An encounter with a bear is one of those things. In my life there has been one time when I have been within 10 feet of a bear in the wild; it was looking me over pretty good for a bit then boogied out of there. Still the speed of the fella was surprising especially given the size.
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#284919 - 07/10/17 01:25 AM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: clearwater]
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Registered: 03/19/05
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Here is another bear attack that happened today in Colorado.

“I woke up to a crunching sound and a lot of pain… The bear had a hold of my head and was dragging me across the ground.”

As the bear’s teeth tore into flesh, Dylan fought back with all of the strength he had.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bear-attacks-camper-dylan-ward-boulder-county/

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#284923 - 07/10/17 05:30 AM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: clearwater]
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Loc: Great Plains
Yikes! That's the worst case to me- attacked in your sleep! That's what happened at Yellowstone a couple years back, two people drug out of their tents in the middle of the night by bears. At least one died IIRC.
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#284925 - 07/10/17 11:09 AM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: clearwater]
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Registered: 08/26/06
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Loc: southern Cal
My first question is - did he have any food or aromatic items in his tent which might have attracted the bear? This seems to be a common finding in many bear attacks - a sloppy campsite.

My experience with bear country is fairly limited. On one overnight hike in Denali National park, in a locality with recent bear sightings, our tent was 100 yards distant from our food prep and eating area, and our bear cans with all smellies was another 100 yards distant, per recommendations. The hassle was worth it - it was one of the most beautiful views I have ever witnessed...

On the Channel Islands, we don't have bears, just Great White Sharks and their buddies.
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#284930 - 07/10/17 01:27 PM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: clearwater]
Montanero Offline
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Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1051
Loc: North Carolina
You don't camp with the sharks do you, Hikermor?

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#284931 - 07/10/17 01:49 PM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: Montanero]
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Registered: 11/13/06
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Loc: North Central Florida
I have heard of sleeping with fish. Sharing a tent with a shark is a new one to me.

I suppose that if you do have a great white, you will not have any trouble with bears.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#284936 - 07/10/17 06:37 PM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: clearwater]
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Registered: 03/19/05
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#284937 - 07/10/17 08:28 PM Re: Recent Bear Attacks [Re: dougwalkabout]
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Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 982
Loc: Alaska
Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
Ah, the seasonal debate is back.
Yup. Must be that time of year.

Only three pages in, and we've already had the mandatory spray discussion, the obligatory minimum caliber debate, the essential shot placement analysis, and the 'should I buy a bigger gun' question. We also have it on good authority that "The idaho bear is still on the hunt for tasty humans or dogs". And we have been treated with the ever popular "you don't have to run faster than the bear" joke. As an added bonus, we've even got a "bear shark" meme.

Any topics we've failed to cover? Has anyone learned anything really new? Has the discussion changed anyone's opinion?

Full disclosure: Anchorage is as small town. It turns out that a parent of one of the recent fatal mauling victims is an acquaintance of mine. While I never met the deceased individual, I did attend the memorial service.


Edited by AKSAR (07/10/17 08:44 PM)
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