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#284918 - 07/10/17 12:40 AM EMP
Jeanette_Isabelle Online   content
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After an EMP how soon can I safely remove a flashlight or an electronic device from a protective container? I heard two weeks but I need verification.

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#284920 - 07/10/17 02:29 AM Re: EMP [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Immediately. The EMP passes through and then it's gone. Unless/until another EMP is generated from whatever source.
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#284921 - 07/10/17 03:02 AM Re: EMP [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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What electronic device would be worth having, even if functional by itself, after an EMP wipes out the power grid and supporting infrastructure? Your flashlight should be fine after an EMP if is one of the old style ones with just a basic switch. The newer ones that cycle through various modes and brightness levels might be toast though. Transportation (motorcycle, car) would be good for sure, but those are probably beyond the physical size that a normal person could protect.

I haven't really thought about "after the EMP" much, except "nothing would work and we'd all die shortly thereafter". Much of my thinking along those lines comes after reading the book "One Second After".

What type of devices were you thinking about protecting?

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#284927 - 07/10/17 12:32 PM Re: EMP [Re: haertig]
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All of my flashlights are LED. Would the LED be affected? I have two of my flashlights in protective containers. I also have my computer back up in a protective container. The backup does little good if I don't have a working computer.

I wish there were a way to protect my singing doll. She is mint in box and sitting on the shelf as is the rest of my collection. The only way is to hide her away in a protective container until the EMP that may never come. If the EMP fries everything, my only source of music will be the singing doll and music box.

I don't plan on dying after an EMP, not until the Mirtazapine runs out. We have bottled water and a way to collect and purify rainwater. We can cook outdoors and though we have a small yard, we can still dig holes to do our business. In the winter we can throw an extra blanket on the bed but I will be miserable in the summer without a fan.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#284939 - 07/11/17 12:41 AM Re: EMP [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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Modern radios are unlikely to do anything useful if protected against an EMP, for some period of time. Any LED emitter is likely to be destroyed if not protected. If I were prepping for an EMP I'd at least have a couple good radios and flashlights in whatever container I was using.

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#284940 - 07/11/17 12:55 AM Re: EMP [Re: chaosmagnet]
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Originally Posted By: chaosmagnet
Modern radios are unlikely to do anything useful if protected against an EMP, for some period of time.

If a radio is protected, it cannot be used after the EMP? How long then do I need to keep a radio or another communications device protected?

Jeanette Isabelle
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#284942 - 07/11/17 02:40 AM Re: EMP [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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An EMP is very likely to make the radio spectrum unusable for a period of time. How long? I don't know exactly, it will depend on the mechanism used to create the EMP. There's no reason to protect a radio after the EMP has passed unless there is another EMP. But it won't be usable until the radio spectrum clears.

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#284946 - 07/11/17 04:33 AM Re: EMP [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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A lot of the transmitters would likely be inoperable after an EMP as well, probably wouldn't be much to listen to even with a working radio.
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#284948 - 07/11/17 11:03 AM Re: EMP [Re: wildman800]
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Originally Posted By: wildman800
Immediately. The EMP passes through and then it's gone. Unless/until another EMP is generated from whatever source.


Yes, it passes almost instantly.

I see little point in trying to save most sophisticated electronics since they will be of little use without supporting infrastructure. Probably little point in saving computer data since it is of little uses without computers and electrical infrastructure.

I would try to save the simpler types of LED flashlight and some basic radio broadcast receivers. Radio transmitters would almost certainly be destroyed by an EMP event, but I believe that TPTB have emergency transmitters stored for just such an emergency.

Remember that modern lithium rechargeable cells need sophisticated electronic chargers, that in turn need electrical input.
The future after an EMP event is going involve a great deal less electricity, with wet leclanche cells, flooded lead aid batteries, and zinc carbon dry cells largely replacing more modern types.

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#284949 - 07/11/17 11:49 AM Re: EMP [Re: adam2]
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Thanks. This information is helpful.

Originally Posted By: adam2
I see little point in trying to save most sophisticated electronics since they will be of little use without supporting infrastructure. Probably little point in saving computer data since it is of little uses without computers and electrical infrastructure.

I would try to save the simpler types of LED flashlight and some basic radio broadcast receivers.

Computer backup takes up little space and it will come in handy if I get another computer, after I bug out to a location not hit by an EMP.

I have two of my flashlights in protective containers.

Jeanette Isabelle
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