Do tinned foots burst when they freeze?

Do tinned foots burst when they freeze? If so; what is the food for a long term cache?
qjs

Frozen Cans
Cans frozen accidentally, such as those left in a car or basement in sub-zero temperatures, can present health problems. If the cans are merely swollen — and you are sure the swelling was caused by freezing — the cans may still be usable. Let the can thaw in the refrigerator before opening. If the product doesn't look and/or smell normal, throw it out. DO NOT TASTE IT! If the seams have rusted or burst, throw the cans out immediately, wrapping the burst can in plastic and disposing the food where no one, including animals can get it.

Food Safety of Frozen Canned Food
More than pipes can freeze during icy weather. Frozen canned foods stored in unheated storage area may cause concern. If canned foods have frozen, they may still be safe to eat. Safety will depend on the condition of the can or jar. To evaluate, consider the following:
Metal Cans
• If the seams are still intact, the food is safe to use. Thaw gradually and store at room temperature.
• If the seam has broken and the food has thawed out, it should be discarded.
• If the seam has broken and food is still cold (below 41F), it may be safely transfer to a container. Store in the refrigerator or refreeze for future use.
• For an extra margin of safety, all low acid foods (meats, fish, poultry and vegetables) must be discarded.
Glass Jars
• If jars have cracked or broken during freezing, discard
• If the seal is still intact, the food is safe to use. Thaw gradually and store at room temperature. Recheck seal once thawed.
• If the seal is broken and food is thawed, discard
• If the seal is broken and food is below 41F, it may be safely transferred to a container. Store in the refrigerator or refreeze for future use.
• All food that is frozen in glass jars should be examined for spoilage before use. All low acid foods (meats, poultry, fish, and vegetables) must be discarded.
General
• Discard any product with an off color or odor. DO NOT TASTE food that looks or smells suspicious. When in Doubt, Throw it Out.
For more information, please contact the Fairfax County Health Department 703-246-2444; TTY: 711.

The quality of black and green tea tends to improve. When stored at subzero temperatures, tea leaves become covered with tiny cracks. This makes tea more aromatic and delicious. Permafrost also benefits vodka because various chemical substances impairing its taste are destroyed during long-term storage inside permafrost, and vodka starts tasting better.
Members of the 1980 and 2010 expeditions placed wheat, rye, oat and barley grains inside the permafrost to see whether they would retain their properties.
"We brought them here, grew them, and they yielded impressive harvests. We also ground wheat and rye grains into fine flour and baked some really safe and high-quality bread," Ulanin said.

M a x wrote:
> The solution would be... burying deeper

so ground is only frozen near the top? How deep would one have to go to avoid freezing?

qjs

take a can of meat - or whatever you are investigating - stick it in the freezer of your refrigerator ... and see what happens.

Nothing beats real testing - right?

Pete

Seriously often asking the question gets you answers you didn't expect.

Since hikermor and I are only bringing tea and vodka it no longer matters anyway.
You know any dancing girls?

Pete wrote:

> take a can of meat - or whatever you are investigating - stick it in the freezer of your refrigerator ... and see what happens.

Listen pal this isn't Mythbusters, it's 'Equipped to Survive' where denying reality is regarded as a useful survival trait (we aren't allowed to discuss global warming). If you are going to start bringing facts into this...

Seriously often asking the question gets you answers you didn't expect. I didn't know fatty foods and burying a few feet down would be solutions.
Since hikermor and I are only bringing tea and vodka it no longer matters anyway.
You know any dancing girls?

qjs

Since hikermor and I are only bringing tea and vodka it no longer matters anyway.

... Mad Max has a blues harp and whatever a 'dreadnought' is.
This is looking like a good party!

By the way I was reading your 'surviving a small town' thread. If you like concrete under your feet what are you on this site for?

Ah I forgot we had that section! Last post was in December I see, but some must use it.

One of the standard ploys in urban survival is to flee to the countryside (carrying tea and vodka, of course) with a big, gnarly blade to fend off critters....

To be more specific, I joined because I had a question on knives. Why is a knife needed in an urban environment? I never got an answer.

I EDC EMT shears.

Jeanette Isabelle

There have been situations in which a screwdriver is good to have. Otherwise I don't see a purpose in a multi tool.

I carried a SAK for a short while. The only thing on it I ever needed was the screwdriver.

Jeanette Isabelle

Blister packs

Can Opener: Lunch, cans

Tweezers

I've fixed bicycles, garage doors, zippers, tents, cars, a light aircraft, more zippers, radios, servers, routers, firewalls, shoes, even more zippers, an oven, several faucets, drains, shelving, furniture, gates, a bunch of cans, firearms, innumerable beer bottles and even more zippers with a multitool. As useful as I find screwdrivers, bottle openers, can openers, knife blades, awls, scissors and files, I tend to use the pliers the most.

Tweezers are one area the SAK needs supplementing. The SAK tweezers are too light for removing ticks. With their rise and the increase in Lymes Disease in the UK I now also carry needled nose tweezers.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle...-great-outdoors

Regarding the bug out party (in every meaning of the word).
Being an Irishman I can of course dance. God didn't make the Irish in his own image to come second. But I'm not going to brag about it. In modesty as in all things we are supreme.
I can riverdance, but only the arm movements; that makes me half as good as Michael Flatley.

qjs

It is never quite the best tool for the situation, but it always gets the job done for me. . .