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#282984 - 12/13/16 03:04 AM Mosul dam in poor shape
Mark_R Offline
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http://www.aljazeera.com/amp/indepth/fea...6082852394.html

It was built on unstable ground, maintenance was neglected, and if more then 1/4 of it goes; Mosul will get hit with a 25 meter wall of water en route to Bahdad. A real expensive example of the old adage "I ******* told you so!"
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#282987 - 12/13/16 08:27 AM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Mark_R]
Tjin Offline
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Well the US infrastructure is also neglected and decaying... (http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/)

Lots of possible future issues can be seen way in advance. However resources, money, time, priorities causes other choices to be made. This is not only in Iraq, but happens all over the world, rich or poor.
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#282989 - 12/13/16 02:38 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Tjin]
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Haven't you heard? Both major candidates proposed major infrastructure repair programs to improve the situation and provide employment.

What could possibly go wrong????

(just a wee bit if sarcasm....)
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#282990 - 12/13/16 02:52 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Mark_R]
bws48 Offline
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Sorry for going slightly off topic, and I hate to be a nit picker, but have all news organizations stopped proof reading? Note, from the story:

"In a communique released in March, the US embassy in Baghdad said that between 500,000 million and 1.47 million Iraqis living along the Tigris river "probably would not survive".

"500,000 million"? Really? 500,000,000,000 people? 500 Billion? There are only about 7.5 billion on earth. . .
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#282992 - 12/13/16 05:53 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Mark_R]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
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The requirements for a journalist to know how to correctly spell and speak accurately was dropped long, long ago.


Edited by wildman800 (12/13/16 05:54 PM)
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#282994 - 12/13/16 06:27 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: wildman800]
Mark_R Offline
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Originally Posted By: wildman800
The requirements for a journalist to know how to correctly spell and speak accurately was dropped long, long ago.


Among other skills.

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But, this is a pattern I keep seeing time and time again. It's gotten to the point where it's so common that I gave it a name. I call it the "Yertle the Turtle Syndrome"

Peerless leader/ hot stuff business magnate / performer ignores recommendations to NOT do something. Either build in area vulnerable to flooding/landslides/other large scale disaster/etc, or do something inadvis

Shortcuts are made during construction, recommendations are ignored, inspection results are either ignored or inspections were not made.

Property is not regularly maintained and inspected, and often used for something other then the original purpose.

The first time anything goes wrong, the whole thing comes down in a big, expensive, and often deadly, pile.

EDIT: I think this is an argument for doing your own risk assessments and not relying on the reassurances of the powers that be.



Edited by Mark_R (12/13/16 06:30 PM)
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#283001 - 12/13/16 09:45 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Mark_R]
chaosmagnet Offline
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It's okay to talk about the situation in Mosul, and it's also okay to talk about crumbling infrastructure in the USA and elsewhere, along with the survival implications of same. Let's please stay away from any further commentary about candidates or politicians.


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#283004 - 12/13/16 11:16 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Mark_R]
hikermor Offline
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Of course, when zoning laws and building standards are properly applied, we hear of "burdensome regulations," "nanny state." and all of that. It mightily depends upon whose ox is being gored.

It seems to me that much of our infrastructure is holding up decently, at least serving through its predictable lifetime, and represents competent work. Maintenance of anything more complex that a compost pile is to be expected, and must be planned and budgeted for.

Come to think of it, probably even compost piles need maintenance, but I never took that course...
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#283006 - 12/13/16 11:27 PM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: hikermor]
AKSAR Offline
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Registered: 08/31/11
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
f course, when zoning laws and building standards are properly applied, we hear of "burdensome Come to think of it, probably even compost piles need maintenance, but I never took that course...

Maintaining compost piles is a rotten job if ever there was one!
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#283011 - 12/14/16 02:09 AM Re: Mosul dam in poor shape [Re: Mark_R]
bws48 Offline
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Compost piles do need maintenance...they are subject to spontaneous combustion. In our county, a huge compost pile caught fire and it took more than 90 firefighters from 3 counties and Baltimore City over a day to put it out! shocked
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