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#280616 - 05/05/16 06:20 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Roarmeister]
wildman800 Offline
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#280617 - 05/05/16 06:32 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: chaosmagnet]
Roarmeister Offline
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Originally Posted By: chaosmagnet
For a two minute evac by car from my house, I would expect the children to grab go-bags, shoes and outerwear, and nothing else. My wife and I would grab a handgun and spare magazines, load the bug-out/bug-in bins (that supplement the core kit in each car) into one of the cars, grab the gas cans and go.

We don't drill this nearly enough.


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#280618 - 05/05/16 06:37 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Teslinhiker]
Roarmeister Offline
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Originally Posted By: Teslinhiker
Some very compelling videos from a persons vehicle onboard cameras while evacuating Fort Mac.


What isn't being felt in the videos is the tremendous heat that is radiated -- that would definitely add to the stress level of anybody driving past the fire.

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#280644 - 05/09/16 11:12 AM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Roarmeister]
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Very good news story on the continuing efforts to help the people of Fort Mac and surrounding area. There is so much help in the way of supplies etc, that it is now overwhelming to the point that no evac center etc needs any more supplies.

Scenes from inside Fort McMurray
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#280645 - 05/09/16 01:45 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Teslinhiker]
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This is certainly a worthwhile contrast to the cliched "shoot and loot" scenario so often portrayed as the outcome of a disaster.
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#280646 - 05/09/16 02:05 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Roarmeister]
dougwalkabout Offline
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A photo from the story Teslinhiker posted above gives some sense of what a monster this 600-square-mile wildfire is:

[img]https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress....w=940&h=705[/img]

Over the last three days, RCMP-led convoys with military helicopters as spotters have been able to move out most of the evacuees who were stranded north of Fort Mac. At least they have access to essential resources.

It's going to be weeks before anybody will be allowed to return, though. Basically, once essential services have been repaired, every building has to be checked for major hazards. Evacuees are already advertising for rental accommodations, knowing that they are going to be away for some time.

EDIT: Can't get the photo to display. Sorry 'bout that. I suspect the system here can't cope with a URL starting with "https:".


Edited by dougwalkabout (05/10/16 02:16 AM)

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#280648 - 05/09/16 08:40 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Roarmeister]
Mark_R Offline
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Interesting what people are taking when they have to leave in a hurry. Documents, valuables, and maybe, a couple changes of clothes. It seems that the emphasis is not so much immediate self reliance, but continuity after the smoke clears.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/americas/c...il_bottommedium


Compared to what the Syrian refugees carried, it seems that sentimental items were the common thread.

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/syrian-refugees-what-they-carried/
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#280650 - 05/10/16 02:14 AM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Mark_R]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mark_R
It seems that the emphasis is not so much immediate self reliance, but continuity after the smoke clears.


Well said. Excellent observation.

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#280654 - 05/10/16 01:27 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: dougwalkabout]
hikermor Offline
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Syria and Alberta are very different situations. In Alberta, you can still rely on insurance/outside assistance and an intact, predictably functioning society, so in prioritizing what to save and take with you, it is reasonable to choose unique items of personal value - the rest can be replaced in due course.

Not so much in Syria....
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#280657 - 05/10/16 11:12 PM Re: Fort Mac evacuated due to forest fires [Re: Roarmeister]
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Yes, very different situations of course. Without getting into politics, it's clear that Syria is a no-win scenario for civilians caught in the middle, with few good options if they escape. I think Mark_R was only trying to point out some very human commonalities.

To illustrate that point: we have a number of Syrian refugee families in the Edmonton area, and they have been sharing their stories. While the more affluent among them were initially able to take household stuff with them in their initial move out of Syria, by the time they went through the refugee systems of two different countries, they touched down in Canada with nothing more than ... documents and momentoes.

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