Most commercial packs and 'survival kits' do not include matches or a lighter. You'll need to add them. (The reason for this is shipping -- much harder to ship flammables.)

You can ship a ferrocerium rod and scraper easy enough.

Or a rod, lighter and matches in a case...as I do.

I have had many orders of Uco stormproof matches sent to me. In fact, I just received the new Titan stormproof matches. They are the same thing much larger. It says they will burn for 25 seconds. I will test them and let you guys know. They may have trouble fitting in some kits due to the size, but I think they will be good for the car and a backpack.

I always have at least 3 fire starting methods in each survival kit, along with 2 or 3 types of tinder. Doesn't take up much room, but increases your chances of success tremendously. Usually it is not the fire starting method that fails, it is the tinder.

WOAH! Where have I been? This is the first I've ever heard of those, thanks for the heads up! Those are some serious matches! I've used many boxes of the regular UCO Stormproof but those things are on steroids! I will be ordering a couple boxes to try out.

Probably teaching granny to suck eggs but in one of Ray Mears programs he mentions keeping bits of old inner tube as tinder. I got one from a bycycle and realise what a useful thing it is. Pushed over my staff to give a better grip,it's a super strong 'elastic' band, water tube and can grip slippy surfaces (using the staff as a bivvy pole was my original intent. When I did jui jitsu we used old ones tied to wall bars to strengthen our throwing movements.

qjs

Where can you get these. The inventory for REI mentions "alumettes de longue duree" but those last for a mere twelve seconds. Longer is better and I agree, redundant lighting techniques is a real good idea

I ordered some from Amazon. They should hopefully be here by Saturday, or at least Monday.

The inner tube is great stuff! Works great as "ranger bands" like a giant rubber band and it's a handy tinder as well.

I got them on Amazon.

My Titan matches showed up today. I have not lit one yet but WOW are they ever ginormous! I'll try them later but I will say they're impressive looking.