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#268159 - 03/16/14 06:35 PM planing for a 9.0 quake
TeacherRO Offline
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#268170 - 03/16/14 10:10 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: TeacherRO]
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Very surprising is this disturbing article in today's LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-0316-lopez-lucy-20140316,0,296401.column#axzz2wAF0LhdY

The lack of preparedness in this community is rather surprising, since the potential threat is quite obvious. It's not like we don't have abundant evidence of the damage and disruption that will occur whenan earthquake occurs.
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#268171 - 03/16/14 10:57 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
The lack of preparedness in this community is rather surprising, since the potential threat is quite obvious. It's not like we don't have abundant evidence of the damage and disruption that will occur whenan earthquake occurs.
I think one sentence in your article explains the problem:
"Jones was better off when she could just worry about tectonic plates, which move faster than politicians do."
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#268177 - 03/17/14 12:46 AM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: AKSAR]
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I dunno, AKSAR. The Pacific Plate is moving toward your turf about as fast as fingernails grow. I'm not sure we can say that about politicians...Do they move at all?

The slovenly approach toward an obvious hazard leaves me agast....
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#268219 - 03/17/14 02:06 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: TeacherRO]
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Registered: 08/31/09
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pulling quote from the article.

""In Grays Harbor County in Washington state, crews will begin building an elementary school gym this summer to double as a "vertical evacuation center" built so that 1,000 people can flee to the roof during a tsunami, protected by a high wall.
"We have no natural high ground," said Ocosta School District Supt. Paula Akerlund. "So we have to evacuate vertically.""


I get the logic of going up to avoid a tsunami; I just hope they build the sucker pretty darn strong- I would hate to climb on the roof of a building 10 minutes after an earthquake...

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#275030 - 05/02/15 10:56 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: TeacherRO]
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This is suddenly relevant...

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#275031 - 05/03/15 12:10 AM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: TeacherRO]
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The LACK of awareness in LA is stupendous.
I just had a conversation a couple of days ago with a young lady (with an advanced education). I pointed out to her the DIRE necessity to have enough water for a couple of weeks, and an ample pile of granola bars and cans of tuna fish. Nothing exotic. The bare bones necessities. Fortunately, she did get the point.

But the last time I did a survey of my building (I work in LA), FEW people had enough water for more than 2-days consumption. This LACK of preparedness is inexcusable. But it is real and very common in Los Angeles. There is going to be a lot of suffering when a good sized quake comes along. IF we are lucky, we will get a mag 6-7 quake in the LA area. That will do enough damage that people will be shocked into readiness again.

Some cities near LA have got NO CHANCE when the Big One hits. The whole Palm Springs area will be toast. The same thing goes for Desert Hot Springs, Banning, Beaumont, the Morongo Casino, Phelan, Pearblossom, LittleRock, Palmdale, Lake Hughes, and Frazier Park. All these places will be complete write-offs after the Big One hits - they are sitting almost directly on the fault line. In the "old days" there were not many people out there. But now, the bedroom communities have had an exploding population because of real estate prices.

People should never have been allowed to build in these places. But what can you say ... GREED rules!

Pete

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#275034 - 05/03/15 03:30 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: Pete]
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This is a question from an East-Coaster. Is it feasible for most West Coasters in the danger zone to store several weeks supply of potable water? Is it really necessary for reasonable emergency planning? Is maintaining a godod water filtering/ purification capacity , perhaps with an enhanced ability to filter debris or common chemicals, sufficient as an alternative?

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#275038 - 05/03/15 04:36 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: acropolis5]
bws48 Offline
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Originally Posted By: acropolis5
. . . Is it feasible for most West Coasters in the danger zone to store several weeks supply of potable water?


I was wondering something similar---how much water would be needed per person per day?

I have always heard "1 gallon per person per day." Given the heat in SoCal, that might not be enough, but taking Pete's "a couple of weeks" as an example, that would be 15 gallons (with a little left over), or 3 of those 5 gallon plastic water containers that sit on top of a water cooler. Storage of that much water does not seem to be that hard. Several people I know use these on a regular basis as they don't trust their well water for drinking/cooking. (I am lucky; my neighborhood is on County water--those just south of me---are not.)
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#275039 - 05/03/15 06:45 PM Re: planing for a 9.0 quake [Re: TeacherRO]
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Per person for a family of 3 = 45 gallons, tougher in apartments or condos but no sweat in single family homes. In the PNW we operate with 3 gal per day by (hopefully) ~9 days before a water truck might hit your neighborhood once, and we're well away from coastal areas that will be without for months from a Cascadian Subduction Zone quake. I have given up on calculating how much to store for my nuclear family of 4, instead each Christmas I give out boring 5, 15 or 30 gal containers (last 2 with simple pumps) to my family members in adjoining zip codes. Together we (45 of us) have sufficient water to avoid dying of thirst, assuming some or all of it doesn't end up under wreck and rubble. I personally store hundreds of gallons, as I anticipate helping out two aging neighbors and a handful of friends who aren't so prepared, and also anticipate friends and acquaintances caught on this side of the now broken floating bridges. They will need a place to safely bunk, and I would rather not have their inconvenience threaten my supplies.

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