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#274716 - 03/24/15 02:55 AM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit [Re: Teslinhiker]
hikermor Offline
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You make some excellent points. I wonder what the real world experience with whistles as a signaling device has been? I have carried one for years and never had to use it. Any stories?
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#274719 - 03/26/15 07:26 PM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit [Re: Mark_R]
ireckon Offline
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The Acme 560 is exactly what I expected. Compared to the Acme 660, the 560 is slightly bigger, slightly louder, slighter lower pitch, and about as easy to blow.

By the way, I can make a moderately loud sound with the following whistles by normally breathing into them:

Acme 660
Acme 560
Victorinox Distress (aka, TOPS)
Jetscream (but sounds like a lot of wasted air exits)

I have to apply a more forceful breath in order to can make a moderately loud sound with the following whistles:

Storm
Acme 60.5
Acme 636
Fox 40 Sharx
Fox 40 Sonik Blast
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#274720 - 03/26/15 10:00 PM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit [Re: hikermor]
Mark_R Offline
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Registered: 05/29/10
Posts: 863
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: hikermor
You make some excellent points. I wonder what the real world experience with whistles as a signaling device has been? I have carried one for years and never had to use it. Any stories?


I've only used them as non-emergency signals. Usually if one of us is recovering from bronchitious or similiar. They're a lot louder then a yell from somebody who's lost their voice or lung capacity.

For comparison, I've only needed a fire extinguisher twice in my life, a smoke alarm once, and called 911 twice (once to report my neighbors playing around with class 1.3 fireworks, and once to report a motorcycle injury accident). I put the whistle in with them in the same I-may-never-need-it,-but-if-I-do,-it-will-be-a-life-and-death-situation catagory.
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#274721 - 03/26/15 10:08 PM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit [Re: Mark_R]
Russ Offline
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I've never needed to use my PLB either ... and a whistle is a lot less expensive.

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#274723 - 03/28/15 12:03 AM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit - lightweight [Re: Mark_R]
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Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 258
Loc: Southern California
While trolling the Net for flat whistle info, I found a page on getting the weight of the ACR whistle (with lanyard) down from it's already svelte 7 grams down to 3 grams! (and getting the bulk of this already tiny whistle down, too!)

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/...thread_id=33706
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#274725 - 03/28/15 01:45 AM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit - lightweight [Re: rafowell]
Russ Offline
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The Vargo Titanium Emergency Whistle weighs 3 grams too.

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#274726 - 03/28/15 03:05 AM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit - lightweight [Re: Russ]
hikermor Offline
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Somehow the weight of my whistle is just not a big issue with me.
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#274727 - 03/28/15 03:51 AM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit - lightweight [Re: hikermor]
Russ Offline
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Weight isn't a big issue to me either, but they went to so much trouble trimming the size of the ACR down to the weight of one of mine. Seemed to be a waste of time.

BTW, I carry that little Ti whistle because it works.

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#274728 - 03/28/15 06:16 PM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit - lightweight [Re: rafowell]
ireckon Offline
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Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: rafowell
While trolling the Net for flat whistle info, I found a page on getting the weight of the ACR whistle (with lanyard) down from it's already svelte 7 grams down to 3 grams! (and getting the bulk of this already tiny whistle down, too!)

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/...thread_id=33706


Now, he has to whistle one-handed because he can't hold the whistle with his teeth. For me, saving a couple grams is not worth losing that feature.

A manufacturer seems to make a survival whistle as small as possible for its features. Side note, the Fox 40 Classic has some useless extra plastic because it's designed to look like a traditional referee whistle.
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#274729 - 03/30/15 12:23 AM Re: Flat whistles for urban kit [Re: Mark_R]
ireckon Offline
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Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Mark_R
bigpigblog.com/2014/06/13/whistlemania-iv-sound-off/

The ACME 636 had a big 10 dB drop when blown by a child instead of an adult, and the Fox40 micro/SOL rescue howler came in dead last with an 11 dB drop and a 1/2 mile range while most of the rest could reach out to 3/4 miles.


Actually, the SOL Rescue Howler numbers were quite similar to the ACR. For the SOL Rescue Howler, there was only a 3dB drop when blown by a kid, and the whistle was heard up to 3/4 mile. The only difference between these two whistles seems to be a slight difference in tone.

Note that he labeled the Fox 40 Micro in a confusing manner. That may be why you got the data mixed up.
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