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#273311 - 12/19/14 09:36 AM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" For Bankers [Re: Bingley]
Tjin Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
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Originally Posted By: Bingley
I just checked one of the items from the list, the Air-Aid emergency mask. Upon checking, I discovered this:

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According to the manufacturer, the mask is effective in protection against: deployment of agents OC, CN, or CS; anthrax, hanta virus, biological attacks, radioactive materials, smoke and fire, toxic chemicals, communicable diseases, noxious odors including decomposition odors, and more.


http://www.emergencymasks.com/category_s/40.htm

This seems very broad. Does anyone know more about this mask?

For one, it seems like you need goggles for effective protection against OC/CN/CS.


When manufactures don't have any standards or certifications named in there advertisement, they probably don't have them. Looking at the pictures, it looks too thin and the seal looks pretty bad.

Looks like a welding fume mask inspired mask to me. Welding fume mask does give some protection due to it's N95 protection combined with the carbon absorbsion layers.
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#273312 - 12/19/14 02:12 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" For Bankers [Re: Bingley]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
Originally Posted By: Bingley
Originally Posted By: Russ
"Why are they doing this now?"


Maybe they have been reading ETS and listening to us? I mean, we all advocate being prepared at home, at work, and in the car. If the government provides their employees with survival kits, why not conclude they've finally pulled their head out from where the sun don't shine -- at least in this matter?


Actually, the "government" has had its head in the sunshine for some time. Working for the National Park Service in a job that involved regular flights, I got regular training in aircraft crash survival - one involved a helicopter mockup in a swimming pool and some really good information, quite consistent with that presented here on ETS....

Rangers still go missing from time to time.....
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#273313 - 12/19/14 04:00 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" For Bankers [Re: hikermor]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
I've also had the helo dunker training; at the facility where I did my latest certification it's been replaced with an Osprey mock-up. Never got to see the new dunker in action, but I had the impression it could be fairly violent, whereas the helo had a relatively gentle water entry and roll.

As for the masks, I picked up a full face respirator from Home Depot that can take either particulate or hazardous fumes. The respirator can be used with
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...our P100 filter and / or a range of chemical cartridges which can be "piggy-backed" together...

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#273315 - 12/19/14 06:27 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" For Bankers [Re: Russ]
Mark_R Offline
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Registered: 05/29/10
Posts: 863
Loc: Southern California
Just reading the copy, it seems like this is a p95 or r95 mask with an extra layer (maybe). I'd be very curious to how they are filtering out bacteria given the micron sized pores needed.
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#273447 - 01/01/15 03:33 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" -- Update [Re: Russ]
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Update: Why Is The Fed Hiring An "Emergency Preparedness Specialist Familiar With DHS Directives" Apparently the banker survival kits was just part of the requirement. Anybody here looking for a job in Washington DC?

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#273449 - 01/01/15 04:01 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" -- Update [Re: Russ]
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I think this is a classic case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't." After all, banks are subject to fires and earthquakes, among other emergencies, and even get robbed from time to time.

Living in EQ central here in southern California, I have seen stashes of emergency supplies in building, both guvment and private-just seems prudent.
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#273450 - 01/01/15 05:55 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" -- Update [Re: hikermor]
AKSAR Offline
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Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 1233
Loc: Alaska
Originally Posted By: hikermor
Living in EQ central here in southern California, I have seen stashes of emergency supplies in building, both guvment and private-just seems prudent.

Anchorage is, of course, earthquake country. In the building where I work, my employer has put a stash of first aid supplies and rescue tools on every floor.

Also on-site outside the building is a big connex locker with emergency food and other supplies. This would be helpful for those employees who have long commutes and might not be able to easily get home if roads and bridges were damaged in a quake. In my case, I live close enough that I could easily walk home if I needed too, even if the area were heavily damaged.
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#273452 - 01/01/15 06:29 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" -- Update [Re: Russ]
Tjin Offline
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I would expect any bank to invest highly in emergency management and disaster recovery. With banking being done electronically, having a failing computer system would mean massive problems for the banks and its customers. This could be natural disasters, fire, water leaks, intruders, hardware failure, etc. Some employees will have a vital part in emergency management and disaster recovery. Supplying these employees with everything they need to do their job and life where ever they are need is a part of that. You can’t fix everything remotely and having backup remotely does not solve every problem.

So the fed looking for an Emergency Preparedness Specialist does not surprise me. Although a temporary job status does.
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#274195 - 02/10/15 11:24 PM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" -- Update [Re: Russ]
ILBob Offline
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
It used to be real common for banks and other public and semi-public buildings to have survival stashes in their fallout shelters.

It went out of favor somewhere along the way.
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#274947 - 04/24/15 05:32 AM Re: Treasury Ordering "Survival Kits" -- Update [Re: Russ]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
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"When things go catawampus, essential personnel are required to go in"

SO MAYBE ... things are going to go catawampus.
Just sayin' !!!

I feel SO MUCH SAFER
knowing that bankers are still in charge!!
:-)

Pete


Edited by Pete (04/24/15 05:33 AM)

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