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#273876 - 01/23/15 07:41 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: Phaedrus]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
I think the crucial thing is to not fall into thinking of a firearm as a talisman that can ward off evil.

That is true.

Upon further review, more advocacy redacted.


Edited by chaosmagnet (01/23/15 11:16 PM)

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#273877 - 01/23/15 07:49 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: ireckon]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: ireckon
Back to the situation at hand, I'm frankly troubled that nobody agrees that a shooter who quickly offs himself is about the best outcome. Respectfully, I would like someone to describe a better outcome for the case here.

Who said any of us don't agree with this? I do. You asked for "even better". Well, I think even better would be it the attacker offed himself BEFORE attacking anybody. Advocacy redacted. I, for one, would be glad to hear of an attacker who did themselves in before attacking anybody. I consider that a plus, not a minus. It's sad when it happens, but it's better than the alternate that could have happened - the attacker killing innocent people. Not related to active shooters and thus redacted.


Edited by chaosmagnet (01/23/15 09:57 PM)

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#273878 - 01/23/15 07:55 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: haertig]
hikermor Offline
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Geezer

Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
It is surprising how many of these incidents end with attacker suicides, which suggests mental issues. The very resolution of these incidents would be early detection and treatment of this problem which is difficult to achieve. But nobody dies and productive lives proceed.
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#273880 - 01/23/15 08:40 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: barbakane]
Bingley Offline
Veteran

Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 1576
In some cases the shooters had been in therapy before they massacred people. In two cases I can think of (Virginia Tech & Navy Yard), the soon-to-be shooters attempted to seek medical help and were turned away. I pity these men who surely knew things were going terrifyingly wrong. We really can't afford to let people slip through the crack anymore.

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#273885 - 01/23/15 09:59 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: barbakane]
chaosmagnet Offline
Sheriff
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3819
Loc: USA
Folks,

We need to stay strictly on tactics and equipment to avoid or survive an active shooter scenario, or I will have to lock this thread.



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#273886 - 01/23/15 10:20 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: haertig]
AKSAR Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 1233
Loc: Alaska
Advocacy redacted.


Edited by chaosmagnet (01/23/15 10:38 PM)
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#273888 - 01/23/15 10:36 PM Re: Active shooter scenario [Re: AKSAR]
clearwater Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Advocacy redacted. Thread locked.


Edited by chaosmagnet (01/23/15 10:38 PM)

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