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#270972 - 07/23/14 05:48 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
ireckon Offline
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Registered: 04/01/10
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Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Glock-A-Roo

- a mini Bic set up like this. I make the inner tube carrier longer to protect more of the lighter and provide more tinder (see below).


What size inner tube is that?
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#270973 - 07/23/14 06:21 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: yee]
Greg_Sackett Offline
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 225
Loc: KC, MO
Originally Posted By: yee
Funny, I have been less than excited by matches since it is almost impossible to get proper strike-anywhere matches.


Where do you live that you can't find strike-anywhere matches? They are all over the place (grocery stores, farm stores, hardware stores, etc.) here in the Midwest.

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#270974 - 07/23/14 06:43 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Greg_Sackett]
yee Offline
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Registered: 12/10/11
Posts: 169
Originally Posted By: Greg_Sackett

Where do you live that you can't find strike-anywhere matches? They are all over the place (grocery stores, farm stores, hardware stores, etc.) here in the Midwest.



In the northeast, I have been able to find strike-anywhere matches only at ACE hardware (Diamond brand, I think). Everywhere else, only safety matches are for sale. They are not available at camping supply or general stores (REI, EMS, Walmart). I haven't checked AGWAY or Tractor Supply co.

I get the feeling (unsubstantiated) that the newer ones don't light as easily as the older strike-anywheres. I could be wrong.

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#270975 - 07/23/14 07:30 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: ireckon]
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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Registered: 04/16/03
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Originally Posted By: ireckon
What size inner tube is that?


It is a 700x23/25. The fit is perfect for the mini Bic.

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#270976 - 07/23/14 08:09 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
Alan_Romania Offline

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The 700Cx23/25 will fit over a full sized Bic as well with a little stretching.
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#270978 - 07/23/14 11:05 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Deathwind]
boatman Offline
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Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 424
Loc: Michigan
UCO ( the maker of the stormproof and REI matches)is coming out with strike any where matches. If they are as good as the storm proof matches, I will be happy. The quality of strike any where matches has greatly deminished over the years. The new "green" matches by Diamond Brand isn't worth spit in my opinion.I can only strike on the box reliably.Rumors abound on why they changed,but they are rumors.I miss ohio Blue Tips....


BOATMAN
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#270982 - 07/23/14 11:46 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Deathwind]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2846
Loc: La-USA
I have to agree that the Strike Anywhere matches are not as reliable as the old matches.
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#270989 - 07/24/14 02:41 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: boatman]
Greg_Sackett Offline
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 225
Loc: KC, MO
I am glad to hear there will be another maker out there. I agree that the green matches aren't as good as the old blue tips were, but they are a heck of a lot better than safety matches. I can usually get them to strike on just about any rough surface at least.

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#270992 - 07/24/14 04:14 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Deathwind]
Outdoor_Quest Offline
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Registered: 08/17/09
Posts: 305
Loc: Central Oregon
I carry:

A fero rod
REI's storm proof matches
A few matches for stove starting and so on.
A small Bic lighter
Vaseline and cotton balls, preloaded and packed in a vial

This takes up little room and is very light weight.

Completed a SAR mission in June and located two hikers on the PCT
that were soaked completely through, had only strike anywhere matches and just about zero training on fire building. Training might be just as important as the gear.

Blake

www.outdoorquest.blogspot.com

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#270993 - 07/24/14 06:27 PM Re: How Much Is Too Much? [Re: Deathwind]
wildman800 Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2846
Loc: La-USA
Personally speaking for myself; training is more important than the gear because training also teaches one how to improvise as well.
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