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#270073 - 05/22/14 02:50 PM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: TeacherRO]
JerryFountain Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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The 7mm exit pupil is not just for night vision (although it is the best choice for night). When the eye is not able to stay in the exit pupil the optics are nearly useless. This often happens in unstable conditions (i.e. on a boat or in an aircraft). The 7x50 has been a first choice in the marine world because it is easy to see when everything is in motion. It also works well at night. This is one of the problems with the small devices, they have a small exit pupil and are hard to hold steady.

I spend lots of time using binoculars, so I tend to buy higher end ones. The Steiners are a great choice for quality at a reasonable price. I have also found that the Leupold Green Ring binoculars provide excellent quality to price ratio as well. I have purchased 2 pair of the 6x30 and am very happy with them. They are not my Leitz's but are still great. They are particularly good for those with narrow interpupillary distance. One of the reasons I bought them. Work well for women and children with narrow faces. They use a synthetic body and are large enough to hold well but light. Roof prisms give you smaller size, but loose optical quality at any price point.

My pocket carry pair is an older set of Leitz (now Leica) 8x20 Trinovids. Excellent optics, rugged and easy to use. Only twice as large as small monoculars (my favorite is the Monovid - half of the Leica Ultravid 8x20). The 8x32 and 8x42 are good compromises for ease of carry and optical capability. My favorite non carry (mostly used at sea) binocular is the 7x50 Elcan (Leitz made in Canada). Too rich for me to own, but they were great when someone else paid for them.

As usual, no association with any of these companies except as a purchaser.

Respectfully,

Jerry

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#270078 - 05/22/14 09:00 PM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
gonewiththewind Offline
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
The 7mm fully dilated pupil (night vision eye capability) isn't achievable by everyone and will get smaller with age. It may be preferable to have a number of different sets of binoculars for use for different circumstances rather than have a very expensive single set trying to cover everything.

I have a pair of Bresser 8x56s (Meade of Germany). They are heavy @ 1.1Kg and quite bulky, have quite a narrow field of view @ 101m/1000m, but they are exceptional for low light conditions with that 7mm exit pupil and the light gathering 56mm objective lenses. They cost me around $75 from a discount store called Lidls. They will for example beat even Nikon Monarchs 8x42s in low light conditions.


Bresser 8x56s identical to these.

A more portable set of binoculars might well be these BARSKA Naturescape 8X42 Waterproof Binoculars. I have found these to be excellent general purpose use binoculars. Again considering the cost these are a bargain @ the price shown. Weight is 600 grams.

I have also found these Olympus 8x25 PCI Binoculars to be excellent considering the weight and cost (paid around $60 for them). In terms of performance/weight @225 grams/price ratio a candidate for the BOB.

Looking at the prices being paid online for some very credible high performance optics, overall there are some very good price deals around especially for the lower magnification/wider exit pupil binoculars (hence low light use at dawn/dusk). Why are a set of 16x50 Nikon Aculons considerably more pricey than a set of 7x50 Nikon Aculons is a bit of a mystery to me. i.e. Current Amazon.com prices;

Nikon 8247 ACULON A211 7 x 50 Binocular (Black) - $87
Nikon 8250 ACULON A211 16 x 50 Binocular (Black) - $136

Does the purchasing public think magnification is the be end all to purchasing binoculars?


So, are we comparing the size of our bins now? LOL

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#270085 - 05/23/14 04:36 AM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
acropolis5 Offline
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Registered: 06/18/06
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Am Fear Laith Mor, I'm interested in purchasing those Bresser 8x56 binoculars. However, I want to do a tripod mount and one review said there is no fixture or plate attachment for a tripod. All the other reviews are silent on this issue. Would you be so kind as to supply the answer? Thanx in advance.

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#270092 - 05/23/14 01:11 PM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: acropolis5]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Here is a link to the Bresser Diorit 8x56 Roof Prism Binocular. $99 is a bargain.

http://www.amazon.com/Bresser-1840856-Di...binoculars+8x56

These are actually an improved design over the Bressers 8x56s I have with a greater field of view of 118/119m over the 101/1000m, so an improvement in the field of view.

Features and specs.

http://www.microglobe.co.uk/bresser-diorit-8x56-roof-prism-binocular-p-7155.html?

These binoculars don't have a standard binocular 1/4/ threaded mount though, a clamp design mount adapter such as Manfrotto 035BN Binocular Super Clamp should work though. Other clamp designs are also available.

http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-035BN-Bi...pod+clamp+mount

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#270103 - 05/24/14 04:28 AM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
acropolis5 Offline
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Am Fear: Many thanx for the quick & informative reply. I've taken up your suggestion. I ordered the Bresser/Doritos 8x56 binocular , the Manfrotto universal bino mount, and added a Dolica 68" Proline tripod/pan head. I'll let you know how it works out.

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#270426 - 06/14/14 01:55 AM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
acropolis5 Offline
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Am Fear: well I took your advice on the Bresser 8x56 Binos & clamp & added a mid price black metal tripod. $264, all up, delivered. Great Advice! Many Thanx! The whole family loves Dad's new toy. I can read wall signs in Mid-town Manhattan from across the river( s) on either side of the island. Wonderful night views. Clear nights give contrasts and reflections not available in daylight. They beat the heck out of my friend's military grade 7x50, $1,300, Nikons.


Edited by acropolis5 (06/14/14 05:09 PM)

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#270538 - 06/18/14 11:45 PM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: acropolis5]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Good to hear that the Bresser's were up to the Job.

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#271170 - 08/10/14 06:36 PM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: TeacherRO]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 2463
Loc: Central California
Emoskop and copies: very small do-just-about-everything optics: telescope, glass, microscope in a miniature package with inherent limitations.

http://www.submin.com/binocular/

http://www.haverhills.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?&shop=city&L=eng&P=1062



Edited by dweste (08/10/14 06:40 PM)

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#272177 - 10/12/14 05:12 PM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: dweste]
acropolis5 Offline
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dwestw, are the Emoscopes still in production? I can't seem to find any place selling them. I'd like to buy the Emoscope SM. Please advise, if you know? My Google- fu is usually decent, but this has me. stumped

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#272331 - 10/18/14 03:18 AM Re: Monocular suggestions? [Re: TeacherRO]
Bingley Offline
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I'm intrigued by the Emoskop/Episcope. It seems that its main use is really as a loupe. since it only has 3x as telescope. In other words, to someone who is not all up on optics, it seems kind of like a novelty item or curio. Like a Curta, it's probably been replaced by newer, more powerful models. Am I wrong?

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