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#269730 - 05/07/14 06:54 PM Re: Home Security - Automatic Garage Door [Re: ILBob]
Arney Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: ILBob
It is not an "emergency" feature at all. It is there in case the door opener fails so you can open it up like people did before there were garage door openers.

If the sensors that are supposed to detect obstructions, like your child, fails, how are you supposed to prevent the door from squashing your child? Google "garage door crushes" and you'll find any number of examples of people being injured or even killed when a closing garage door sensor failed to reverse (even adults). If the motor or mechanism gets jammed by the obstruction that is being crushed, how else can you lift the door if there isn't a release?

Originally Posted By: ILBob
Short of busting a window in your garage door or making a hole in it, I don't see how you can get the coat hanger to the release latch.

There are any number of videos demonstrating the technique, like this one.

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#269853 - 05/12/14 08:13 PM Re: Home Security - Automatic Garage Door [Re: Arney]
Mark_R Offline
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Registered: 05/29/10
Posts: 863
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: Arney

If the sensors that are supposed to detect obstructions, like your child, fails, how are you supposed to prevent the door from squashing your child? Google "garage door crushes" and you'll find any number of examples of people being injured or even killed when a closing garage door sensor failed to reverse (even adults). If the motor or mechanism gets jammed by the obstruction that is being crushed, how else can you lift the door if there isn't a release?


The manual release still has to function, that's not in question. The question is being able to release it quickly in the event that the garage door sensors fail in such a way that results in crush injuries.

Since we all carry pocket knives (right?!?) the simplest solution is to back the spring with a piece of cord and cut through it if required. Zip ties are a PITA to cut with knives.

Personally, I'd use an autolocking biner and cord loop. Easy to open by hand, but impossible with just a coat hanger hook.


Edited by Mark_R (05/12/14 08:31 PM)
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#269931 - 05/14/14 10:11 PM Re: Home Security - Automatic Garage Door [Re: Mark_R]
UTAlumnus Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
Quote:
Zip ties are a PITA to cut with knives.


If there is room, put the knife through the zip tie loop & twist to where the knife cuts the tie.

Edit to add: One side of the tie braces the back of the knife blade to let the edge cut it. This is a lot easier to demonstrate than explain in text.


Edited by UTAlumnus (05/14/14 10:18 PM)

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#269935 - 05/14/14 10:41 PM Re: Home Security - Automatic Garage Door [Re: UTAlumnus]
Arney Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: UTAlumnus
Quote:
Zip ties are a PITA to cut with knives.

If you watch the video clip in the OP, the emergency release is secured with a zip tie and they show that it can be easily broken if you have the grip strength to pull down on the release cord with some help from your bodyweight. So, for most folks, tools are not necessary if you need to pull the release in a hurry unless you're using some heavy duty zip tie.

It probably helps to have the zip tie oriented so that the release lever presses directly against the "buckle" part of the zip tie as you're pulling down on the cord. I can't be sure from watching the video, but I think you just need to break the tiny locking tab inside the buckle, rather than trying to snap the strap itself, to free the release lever. Using a knife, you're basically trying to cut through the strap, which is probably the strongest part of the zip tie.

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#269992 - 05/16/14 06:37 PM Re: Home Security - Automatic Garage Door [Re: Arney]
UTAlumnus Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
You're right that they are easily broken & very easy if you can apply the force to the little tab. This is actually the method I use when dealing with zip tied packaging.

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