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#34179 - 11/08/04 11:53 PM Better container for small AMK kits
dchinell Offline
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Loc: FL
I tried carrying Doug's kit and the Pocket Medic kit in my pants pockets for awhile. Those vinyl envelopes didn't work real well for me.

I tried a LOT of other solutions -- bigger, smaller, hard case, plastic bags etc., but didn't improve on anything. Then I tried these cheap little sewing kits:

http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Mer...ategory_Code=38

I think I like this really well as a container. Or something similar. Should be easy enough to sew up a custom version with exactly the dimensions and features I want.

I think it's important to have the top and bottom edge of the container snug up against the long, vertically stacked items, like the whistle, SparkLite, tape, fishing kit, etc. That keeps them aligned, upright, and prevents them from bunching at one end of the container.

Anyway, the little nylon pouch lets you fold the top over nice and snug. It slips into my pocket easily, and since it's cloth it can conform to my leg and pocket in the slimmest package possible.

The only things it's missing are water resistance and transparency. I think I can live without those. Carrying the vinyl pouches for only a month or so put a couple of little pinch-cracks in them, so they're not waterproof any more. I guess I can slip the fire starters (I've added a mini-Bic to my kit) and flashlight into a little zip-loc plastic bag if I start to worry about getting wet.

Bear
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#34180 - 11/09/04 07:13 AM Re: Better container for small AMK kits
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
What kind of fastener?

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#34181 - 11/09/04 03:38 PM Re: Better container for small AMK kits
dchinell Offline
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Susan: There's a ribbon sewn on the outer edge of the top flap. You wrap one half of the ribbon one way, the other half the other way, then tie them off on the far side. -- Bear
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#34182 - 11/10/04 02:18 AM Re: Better container for small AMK kits
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
I must admit I'm on my third AMK vinyl pouch right now. Great little pouches but I'm pretty hard on my EDC gear. I am currently experimenting with other options also.
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#34183 - 11/10/04 02:46 PM Re: Better container for small AMK kits
dchinell Offline
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Loc: FL
Brian: Please inform us of any discoveries you make. I'm going to try this model, as well:

http://store.yahoo.com/campingsurvival/ocasekit.html

I also think the plastic tubes, roll of duct tape, and spool of thread are needlessly bulky when striving for a flat pack.

I've replaced the plastic tube and tweezers from the Pocket Medic with Sliver Grabber tweezers. Almost identical form, but with a clip to protect the point. I also transferred my personal meds from plastic vial into a flat, ziploc baggie.

http://www.slivergripper.ca/

In the PSK, I'm thinking of using a flat roll of duct tape, striving for roughly the same size as the mirror. The needle, fishing gear, and safety pins clearly don't need to stay in their plastic tube.

The spool of thread isn't as easy to fix. I either have to wind a flatter spool, or find a cardboard bobbin, or wind it around the pencil or something.

Bear
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#34184 - 11/11/04 04:10 PM Re: Better container for small AMK kits
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
I have tried pretty much everything that you mention... flat, extremely thin "rolls" of duct tape, flat meds packaging etc. I have yet to find something I am really happy with and my kit is still currently much larger than I would prefer. As far as containers, here are the ones that I have tried that I can remember (I'm sure I'm leaving out a few.

Standard Altoids Tin
Round Altoids Tin
Mini Altoids Tin
Round Candle Tin
AMK Pouch
FAK Nylon Pouch
Small Plastic Boxes (in a variety of shapes and sizes from SparkLite to FAK)
Empty Zippo Lighter Shell
Dental Floss Box
Spark Lite Box
Spec Ops T.H.E. Wallet Junior
Regular (very small) Eagle Creek Wallet
Key Ring
Caribiner
My Pockets
Taped around a knife sheath (much like a large version of Cody Lundin's mini kit)
Maxpedition M-2 Waistpack (many smaller kits have been put in the M-2 along with a Storm Shelter Instant Pocket Tent)
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#266574 - 01/14/14 06:29 PM Re: Better container for small AMK kits [Re: dchinell]
dchinell Offline
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Registered: 02/08/02
Posts: 312
Loc: FL
This post is from long, long ago, but I've discovered a pocket carry option that I wanted to share with you.

The basis is the Ziploc pint freezer bag. It's not the most durable plastic bag ever, but the idea is to replace it every month or so.

What it needed was something to provide protection on the outer face and to create a rigid structure to keep everything from collapsing in a clump.

My solution was to cut up one of those thin plastic cutting sheets. Currently, I'm using a piece that's 3-3/4 x 6-3/4 in. (9.5 x 17 cm) with rounded corners.

Protection on the inside face is provided by a folded paper hand towel. This is the plush kind you encounter every so often in a restroom or used as a napkin at a restaurant. The paper towel is what I use in place of a handkerchief to give out to people who need it.

Between these two faces, the material and gear inside stays pristine.

Bear

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#266576 - 01/14/14 07:40 PM Re: Better container for small AMK kits [Re: dchinell]
JBMat Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 745
Loc: NC
Try wrapping duct tape around the vinyl kits, making sure they can still close. Use a bright color, like orange or red, so you can find them if they drop on the floor/ground.

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#266581 - 01/14/14 08:53 PM Re: Better container for small AMK kits [Re: dchinell]
TeacherRO Offline
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Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 2351
I like harder shell kits; Rubbermaid box or similar. More crush/dust/waterproof.

T RO

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