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#266437 - 01/07/14 01:59 AM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: Herman30]
Byrd_Huntr Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
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Herman30...very valuable information. Thanks for posting it.
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#266438 - 01/07/14 01:59 AM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: Pete]
UTAlumnus Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
It depends on how you are using it. For severe dry skin, the dermatologist told me the greasier the better. Vaseline Lip Therapy looks like they just packaged standard Vaseline in a different container.

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#266441 - 01/07/14 10:38 AM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: TeacherRO]
Herman30 Offline
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Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 495
Loc: Finland
One recommendation I´ve heard here is to apply vaseline or whatever lotion you want, the evening before going out. That way it is absorbed by the skin during the night keeping it moist without a layer on top of skin.

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#266446 - 01/07/14 04:04 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: TeacherRO]
JPickett Offline
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Registered: 08/03/12
Posts: 264
Loc: Missouri
I suspect the safest way to keep exposed skin from frostbite is, don't leave it exposed. Cover it with a fleece facemask or mil-surp. headcover.

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#266447 - 01/07/14 04:27 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: TeacherRO]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
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Jpicket ... Problem happens with minimum gear. You have one facewrap, two gloves. By accident, you lose one glove. There is no replacement. If you move your facewrap to your uncovered hand, you get frostbite on your face.

It does pay to have backup gear. But sometimes that doesnt exist.

Not trying to be contrary here ... Just pointing out that urgent situations do come up where people are missing essential kit.

Pete


Edited by Pete (01/07/14 04:29 PM)

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#266449 - 01/07/14 05:12 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: TeacherRO]
Colourful Offline
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Registered: 11/14/07
Posts: 87
Loc: Yukon
Every winter, on the coldest Yukon day, I test my outfit on my 2km walk to work. Besides the obvious warm clothing mentioned above, my favorite item are my clear goggles for eye protection.

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#266451 - 01/07/14 07:04 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: TeacherRO]
gonewiththewind Offline
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Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
Well hydrated skin functions better than dehydrated skin. However, applying lotion to exposed skin in extreme cold temperatures is not recommended. Apply the lotion at night and indoors to keep the skin healthy.

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#266467 - 01/08/14 12:43 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: gonewiththewind]
hikermor Offline
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Loc: southern Cal
I have been advised to not wash vigorously in cold weather. Let the oils accumulate of the skin. Presumably it will help a bit...
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#266468 - 01/08/14 01:15 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: gonewiththewind]
Bingley Offline
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Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 1576
Originally Posted By: Montanero
However, applying lotion to exposed skin in extreme cold temperatures is not recommended.


What happens if you do that? Does the lotion freeze on your face before it gets absorbed?

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#266471 - 01/08/14 04:10 PM Re: Cold weather tip - Lotion or salve [Re: Bingley]
JerryFountain Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: St. Petersburg, Florida
[quote=BingleyWhat happens if you do that? Does the lotion freeze on your face before it gets absorbed? [/quote]

Several things happen. One is that most of the lotions (not the vasoline) contain water. The evaporation removes a hugh amount of heat. Some also have a high heat transfer rate and increase heat loss. The lotion or petrolium based products add or stop removal of water from the skin, increasing heat loss (think wet insulation) and increasing the amount of frozen water which increases damage. The most insideous and possibly the most important is that many make the body feel warmer and decrease concern and attention to frostbite. Because of the lack of attention, it is not noticed and corrected before it causes serious problems.

Respectfully,

Jerry

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