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#259965 - 04/26/13 05:23 PM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: hikermor]
Russ Offline
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One of the first accessories I bought for my CZ-452 was a single shot adapter for use instead of a magazine when shooting single shots. The insert is probably unnecessary except that it fills the void and helps guide the round into position. That's what I keep in the gun when not in use.
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#259967 - 04/26/13 06:17 PM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: bacpacjac]
LesSnyder Offline
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Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 1680
Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
Spuds... if it looked like this.. Winchester Model of 1890... this one happens to be in .22 short and was a gallery gun.. my 12th birthday present... and started the whole thing


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#259969 - 04/26/13 07:40 PM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: LesSnyder]
spuds Offline
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Registered: 06/24/12
Posts: 822
Loc: SoCal Mtns
Yes Les,the fore-end looks right,but it didnt seem IIRC it was shooting shorts.But whatever it was,what a sweet sweet sweet action.Also said the ammo was rare as he let wife fire thru a box of it,LOL,they love ladies at the range!

Was that made in the 1900-1910 range,if so I think he said it was 1903,or 1909 vintage (EXCELLENT COND. BTW),I just wasnt paying enough attention to remember and he was naming off all kinds of antiques he had.Major lifetime collector of high end condition old guns,real old guy. In fact said he only started shooting them as he is going to die at his age so the heck with it,time he got to enjoy them too.

I would love to have one of those,you can really reload briskly,amazing quality firearm arent they?

Old 22 pumps,awesome IMO.Such QUALITY in maufacture as far as this novice knows,sure was a performer.

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#259970 - 04/26/13 08:16 PM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: spuds]
spuds Offline
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Registered: 06/24/12
Posts: 822
Loc: SoCal Mtns
OK,did some looking,I'd say it was the Winchester 1906 .22 pump.

Pic I saw on web...and the vintage would be correct,and fore-end slide on tube is what I remember....

http://guncollectionsonline.com/winchester1906.htm


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#259972 - 04/26/13 08:44 PM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: bacpacjac]
wileycoyote Offline
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Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 309
Loc: north central west TX
regarding combo-guns, like the savage 24C:

i loved the concept, but having owned a couple of them i wasn't impressed with either the quality or the utility. i tried having them improved with sling swivels, trigger jobs and custom sights (rear peep), yet even then they didn't satisfy me.

worse was my surprise when i intended to fire the rimfire but the shotgun fired instead (it appears i had simply bumped the selector onto the wrong setting but hadn't notice it the moment the game jumped up).

swiss army knives and maybe leatherman are the only items i can think of that actually preforms a number of different tasks well. i've found that firearms designed for a single purpose do that job far better.

ie: a person can always add a scope to the 10/22 if desired. but scoping a 24C is not only hard to accomplish, its not at all useful when shooting the birdshot barrel.

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#259974 - 04/26/13 09:51 PM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: bacpacjac]
LesSnyder Offline
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Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 1680
Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
Spuds... if it was a round barrel a 1906, the 90's were octagonal... from the serial number range mine was produced in 1910...

Wiley... went through a pretty steep learning curve with the 10/22 (mine was built around 1995)... cantilevered scope, a half hour talk with David Tubb, some headspace and trigger work, double lugged, and a barrel tuner was a 4 year project, but ended pretty well

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#259976 - 04/27/13 12:51 AM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: Bingley]
Fyrediver Offline
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Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 46
Originally Posted By: Bingley
Originally Posted By: Fyrediver
Additionally, you can purchase inserts to shoot .22 out of the 12 gauge
http://www.gunadapters.com/categories/Shotgun-Adapters/12-gauge/


How does this work? Would you need a new barrel?


Bingley,

The shotgun barrel insert IS the barrel for the .22 (or other caliber you choose). They are rifled so the bullet spins up just like it would out of a pistol or rifle. Since it's traveling in a straight line (at least at that point) it exits the larger shotgun barrel unimpeded. I'd suggest getting one of the longer ones as you will impart greater velocity to the bullet with the longer barrel. The system achieves the same, or greater, velocity out of the insert barrel as it would out of a pistol.

One of the steps of shooting (Appleseed note here) is "Follow Through." This is when the trigger is momentarily held in the firing position prior to being allowed to travel forward and reset. I think you'd get the best accuracy with a good follow through with an insert. Additionally, the .22 insert is offset either on top or bottom so you'd need to shoot it a bit to see where it's zero'd.

Best of luck!

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#259979 - 04/27/13 03:33 AM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: Fyrediver]
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
The Browning BL-22 is one of the best .22 rifles made. Built to last and very accurate. A bit pricey but totally worth it IMO.

Marlin XT-22 bolt action .22 is also excellent. Very affordable.

Marlin Model 60 is a great budget rifle. 2nd most popular semi-22 after the Ruger 10/22.

CZ also makes fantastic .22 rifles and shotguns.


All of these are tube fed so you don't have to worry about magazines. Good luck!

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#259981 - 04/27/13 04:41 AM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: LED]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: LED
Marlin Model 60 is a great budget rifle. 2nd most popular semi-22 after the Ruger 10/22.
Actually, there are more Marlin 60's out there than 10/22's. A lot more. The 60 has been in production for many years longer than the 10/22. Being popular, and being available for many decades, equals high numbers in the hands of shooters. It could be that looking at a short snapshot in time today, a 10/22 is more likely to be sold than a 60 (i don't know if this is true or not), but over all time there are tons more 60's out there than 10/22's.

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#259982 - 04/27/13 05:12 AM Re: Choosing the Right Gun [Re: bacpacjac]
Bingley Offline
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Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 1576
The Appleseed idea is a good one. The instructors in my area are quite serious about pedagogy, but I am guessing that there is always a variation in terms of the quality, flavor, etc. of each shoot.

Some newspapers make them out to look like a militia group. That's not true at all. They stick close to marksmanship and heritage, and they advocate civic participation -- not for any specific party. They're just against apathy. Now, you can say that's a kind of politics, and you'd probably be right. But that's a far cry from an overtly political organization. What I'm trying to say is that Canadians should be fine. You don't need to worry that you'd be out of place.

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