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#259304 - 04/18/13 09:03 AM Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas
adam2 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/08
Posts: 470
Loc: Somerset UK
Very sad, large explosion at a fertiliser plant.
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Let this tragedy be a sad reminder that some disasters strike suddenly without warning, unlike say extreme weather.

Shows the importance of being prepared, first aid skils and supplies would be especialy valuable in such cases.

I am sure that all our thoughts are with the bereaved and injured.

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#259307 - 04/18/13 11:05 AM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: adam2]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2845
Loc: La-USA
1kt of explosive force!
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#259308 - 04/18/13 11:25 AM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: adam2]
James_Van_Artsdalen Offline
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Registered: 09/13/07
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#259309 - 04/18/13 11:39 AM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: adam2]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
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Registered: 09/10/08
Posts: 382
Originally Posted By: adam2
... some disasters strike suddenly without warning ...

hmmm,
fertilizer plant ~300 yards from homes/school,
fire at fertilizer plant,
fire leads to fertilizer explosion 10min later,
worst case scenario realized
stick frame buildings never stood a chance

ssudden, but predictable , very sad
Explosion hits fertilizer plant north of Waco, Texas - CNN.com
Ammonium nitrate disasters - Wikipedia

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#259310 - 04/18/13 11:40 AM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: adam2]
bacpacjac Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Scary stuff!
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#259319 - 04/18/13 03:07 PM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
Denis Offline
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Registered: 01/09/09
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Loc: Calgary, AB

That report makes an interesting note about risk management:

"Separately, the plant had informed the Environmental Protection Agency that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, according to The Dallas Morning News. It did so in an emergency planning report required of facilities that use toxic or hazardous chemicals.

The plant's report to the EPA said even a worst-case scenario wouldn't be that dire: there would be a 10-minute release of ammonia gas that wouldn't kill or injure anyone, the newspaper reported."


I wonder if a better risk assessment & mitigation plans could have made a difference.
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#259342 - 04/18/13 08:33 PM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: ]
darin Offline
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Registered: 02/01/10
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I,m surprised why the plant, being that close to the town was not required to have blast burms installed around the perimeter like they often require around ammo dumps and fire works site. it seems this simple precaution could have averted lots of this damage by directing the blast more upward.

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#259347 - 04/18/13 11:00 PM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: darin]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
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Loc: southern Cal
The news this morning made me recall the Teas City disaster, which was the detonation of a ship load of ammonium nitrate - 66 years and one day ago.
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#259357 - 04/19/13 01:18 AM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: adam2]
spuds Offline
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Registered: 06/24/12
Posts: 822
Loc: SoCal Mtns
I dont think we have as many safety precautions,or the will to make them viable as we had in times past.We used to be rolling in money as a country and willingly paid for proper protection.Thats out the window now in private enterprise,they are struggling hard just to keep the doors open is my take on it.

I see this type of thing increasing going forward IMO.FWIW

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#259360 - 04/19/13 01:27 AM Re: Many feared dead in large explosion in Texas [Re: adam2]
Desperado Offline
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Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 1530
Loc: DFW, Texas
I live approx. 60 miles north as the crow flies. We distinctly heard the blast.
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