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#257328 - 03/08/13 07:55 PM A backup was needed for bear spray this time?
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Sounds like a grizzly defending it's kill isn't always stopped by bear spray.

http://www.yellowstonegate.com/2013/03/n...teton-elk-hunt/

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#257336 - 03/09/13 12:43 AM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3219
Loc: Alberta, Canada
I doubt there is any one-size-fits-all situation. 10 seconds isn't a lot of time to react.

A lot of variables can impact the effectiveness of bear spray. A breeze, the experience of the user, the size of the cannister, and the sensitivity of the animal to its effects.

A lot of variables can impact the effectiveness of firearms too, especially in a stress situation. As I understand it, it takes a pretty good, fast, disciplined shooter to kill a charging bear. Otherwise, if a bear is doing a "false charge" (for example) it becomes a wounded bear that is "all-in."

If two of the three hunters had used bear spray, with one as a safety, would the outcome have been different? Maybe, maybe not. It's really impossible to say.

I wouldn't wish to see any human hurt. Still, it's a damn shame about the bear. frown

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#257344 - 03/09/13 07:41 AM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
Bingley Offline
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Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 1576
No internet discussion is as heated as defenses against bear attacks or as the relative merits of 9mm vs. .45 ACP. Moderators beware!

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#257345 - 03/09/13 11:17 AM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
hikermor Offline
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Loc: southern Cal
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#257349 - 03/09/13 03:10 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
JPickett Offline
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Registered: 08/03/12
Posts: 264
Loc: Missouri
If I have a 9mm or .45 to defend myself against a grizzly bear, I'll only need one shot. Just hope I can hit myself before the bear does!

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#257356 - 03/09/13 03:52 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
ILBob Offline
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
Sounds like they used plenty of bear spray and a rifle that would take down an elk. Plenty of rifle for grizzly.

Bear attacked the wrong group this time.

OK, so just a little clean up of some political commentary. Political commentary is discouraged, even when well taken. No finger pointing, nothing offensive here, nobody is a bad guy... but dems da rules. Fair 'nuf?

HJ


Edited by Hikin_Jim (03/09/13 05:32 PM)
Edit Reason: edited by mod per forum rules

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#257357 - 03/09/13 04:03 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3219
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Bingley called it. Here we go ...

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#257358 - 03/09/13 04:11 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: JPickett]
ILBob Offline
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
There is an old joke about using a 25ACP to defend yourself against bear attack. Just shoot your girlfriend in the knee with it while the bear is chasing both of you.
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#257362 - 03/09/13 05:29 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: JPickett]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 1804
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: JPickett
If I have a 9mm or .45 to defend myself against a grizzly bear, I'll only need one shot. Just hope I can hit myself before the bear does!
lol!

HJ
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#257377 - 03/09/13 09:44 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
KenK Offline
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Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2208
Loc: NE Wisconsin
Would a handgun be enough to stop a grissly? (aside from making a lucky shot) I've always wondered about that.

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