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#252689 - 11/02/12 01:55 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: thseng]
Meadowlark Offline
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Wow, thseng! Thanks for reporting.

I haven't seen a line like that since the 1970s.


Stay safe,

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#252740 - 11/03/12 01:10 AM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: thseng]
Ironwood Offline
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Registered: 05/15/11
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On gensets, multi fuels is good. Diesel keeps nearly indefintely, and NG lines usually stay pressurized from well heads. My fuel of choise is NG for home, and diesel for mobile. Generally we dont need the electric, more for convienence, and pulling water from our deep well (working on a retro hand pump on century old hand dug/lined well on our property.)

I got a buddy a 709 military diesel genset (3KW) a few years back, he is on Morris NJ and has run it several hundred hours in the last few years in the storms there. They are loud but worth it if you need to keep some important stuff online (wont run a whole house or even part)


Thanks for the video...

Ironwood


Edited by Ironwood (11/03/12 01:17 AM)

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#252772 - 11/03/12 02:46 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Ironwood]
Jolt Offline
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Loc: Maine
The gas situation in NJ has made me think...my car has a rather small tank, which would be a real disadvantage in that type of scenario if I needed to do a significant amount of driving (fortunately I do have a bike so that would help). I also don't really have a place to store fuel as I am renting an apartment in a multifamily (3 unit) building. Maybe the best thing to do is to fill up the tank and a couple of gas cans when potential badness is approaching...I suppose I could temporarily put a couple of full cans in the far corner of the yard, and use them to fill up the next time that is needed. Anyone have other thoughts?
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#252773 - 11/03/12 03:14 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Jolt]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
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I always top off the tank before any event that I can see approaching. Other than that, the lower half tank is reserved. As for additional gas cans -- if you can store them safely do it and rotate them out.
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#252774 - 11/03/12 03:21 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Jolt]
thseng Offline
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Registered: 03/24/06
Posts: 900
Loc: NW NJ
They just implemented odd/even gas days in NJ:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/as_nj_gas_shortage_rolls_on_la.html

The simple solution would be to eliminate "gouging" laws. Noooooo - now a state senator is proposing to require gas stations to have generators. Perhaps they could afford them and be motivated to have them if they were allowed to charge what the gas is really worth.

I filled up across the river in PA yesterday - no waiting. Pays to be 10 miles from the border.
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#252781 - 11/03/12 05:40 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Jolt]
Teslinhiker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 1418
Loc: Nothern Ontario
Originally Posted By: Jolt
The gas situation in NJ has made me think...my car has a rather small tank, which would be a real disadvantage in that type of scenario if I needed to do a significant amount of driving (fortunately I do have a bike so that would help). I also don't really have a place to store fuel as I am renting an apartment in a multifamily (3 unit) building. Maybe the best thing to do is to fill up the tank and a couple of gas cans when potential badness is approaching...I suppose I could temporarily put a couple of full cans in the far corner of the yard, and use them to fill up the next time that is needed. Anyone have other thoughts?


Do you not have a trustworthy neighbor, friend, family member or co-worker who lives close by and has a garage or shed who will allow you to temporarily store the gas cans?
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#252788 - 11/03/12 08:40 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Teslinhiker]
Jolt Offline
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Registered: 11/15/10
Posts: 90
Loc: Maine
Originally Posted By: Teslinhiker
Originally Posted By: Jolt
The gas situation in NJ has made me think...my car has a rather small tank, which would be a real disadvantage in that type of scenario if I needed to do a significant amount of driving (fortunately I do have a bike so that would help). I also don't really have a place to store fuel as I am renting an apartment in a multifamily (3 unit) building. Maybe the best thing to do is to fill up the tank and a couple of gas cans when potential badness is approaching...I suppose I could temporarily put a couple of full cans in the far corner of the yard, and use them to fill up the next time that is needed. Anyone have other thoughts?


Do you not have a trustworthy neighbor, friend, family member or co-worker who lives close by and has a garage or shed who will allow you to temporarily store the gas cans?


For temporary storage when a storm is approaching, maybe I could put a couple full cans in the trash shed outside my building--why I didn't think of that right away, I am not sure. That shed is awfully close to the building for storing large quantities of flammable liquids on a regular basis, but having a couple of gas cans in there for a few days should be OK.
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#252789 - 11/03/12 09:12 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: thseng]
Dagny Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC
Friend was in NJ the past few days as her brother had an emergency heart situation (surgery postponed 24 hours because the hospital was on generator).

Said she waited 90 minutes in one of the shorter gas lines but was limited to $20 worth and it had to be cash.

I wonder how much gas she burned getting gas.

Sandy will be remembered for a long time. Hopefully, those who remember will be more prepared in the future. But the average person can be only so prepared for gas shortages.




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#252791 - 11/03/12 09:20 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Dagny]
thseng Offline
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Registered: 03/24/06
Posts: 900
Loc: NW NJ
Originally Posted By: Dagny

Said she waited 90 minutes in one of the shorter gas lines but was limited to $20 worth and it had to be cash.

I wonder how much gas she burned getting gas.

Exactly! Everyone was driving around burning gas just to find enough gas to drive around and search some more.

Why not allow the people at the front of the line to fill up so they won't come back for at least a few days?
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#252793 - 11/03/12 09:39 PM Re: Hurricane Sandy Gas Lines [Re: Dagny]
Teslinhiker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 1418
Loc: Nothern Ontario
Originally Posted By: Dagny

Friend was in NJ the past few days as her brother had an emergency heart situation (surgery postponed 24 hours because the hospital was on generator).

Said she waited 90 minutes in one of the shorter gas lines but was limited to $20 worth and it had to be cash.

I wonder how much gas she burned getting gas.

Sandy will be remembered for a long time. Hopefully, because those who remember should be more prepared in the future. But the average person can be only so prepared for gas shortages.


Though I am sure a lot of people did not heed the warnings and did not fill their car gas tanks before the storm hit. It makes me wonder though how many people who may of had a good amount of gas are now getting caught up in gotta have it fever? Meaning they watch the news and see these lineups and think that they better go get more gas "before it is all gone."
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