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#25134 - 05/19/04 07:28 AM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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i totally agree with you there.
i personally dislike hiphop, but i do somewhat like the older rap that became popular as i grew up because it had more positive messages.

the problems are these:
1.respect - the people blasting this crap have none, when the windows on the BACK of my house rattle at 3 am on a weeknight because of their stereo systems power.
but yet if people started screaming at them to turn that crap down or off we are branded as "being offensive" or "intolerant " or some p.c branwashing like that, making us feel guilty for speaking up.

but its ok if were all subjected to listening to this filth with more cursing and sexual descriptions then you can imagine filling a 60 second period of time while children are all around coming out of a nearby school.

now i admit I dont have the cleanest vocabulary, but i NEVER speak like that around children.


2. the media and the race card - lets be honest here, the media loves to jump all over stories of police racial profiling and such. but ive seen car loads of white kids playing the same crap as loud, its not a race issue its a culture issue.

in any case more often then not recently ive seen these clowns blasting their music so loud not caring for others hearing, even with a cop car RIGHT NEXT TO THEM but NOTHING ever happens to them!
it was so bad that a full block away i cant talk on my cell phone because its STILL too loud.
but the cops (who in this case were both white) totally ignored the vehicle right behind theirs on the avenue making store windows rattle because If they fined these morons (who in this case were black) as the current noise pollution law says they have to, you know it woulld somehow get blown out of proportion and wind up on tv with the cops labled "racist" so they do just nothing at all about the noise levels now.


sorry for the rant, but im an insomniac as it is, and these past few nights these idiots keep waking me up between 2-4 am and then i cant get back to sleep at all.

so i scan this site alot and often respond to these old threads, (its new to me though heh.)
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#25135 - 05/19/04 03:33 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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Amen!, Amen!, Amen!, Amen!, Amen!, Amen!, Amen!, and Amen!, -To So Much of! / and Everything!, -That you've Just Said! As Well as What Pegasus Earlier Said!

I Can't Rattle Off my Total Case or Reasons regarding it Right Now! On What Is and Should be a Stupid Side Matter Anyway!

In That we as Individuals and a Society, -Should Be Better of Ourselves than to be Even Doing *This* Kind of Rap and Hip Hop, -so Predominantly Prevalent Nowadays! -And For a Long Time, -Since About 88 or 89 Too!

I Know that Many of them would at least Say, that they are Only Honestly Speaking of their Own Real Life Experiences. But if This is the Real Life of their Environment and Experience, -Then This Doesn't Speak Well of Them in Such! Or of Parts of our Society in General!

We as a Society Shudn't Be Turning variously Wrong Like That, in such Quarters! Makes More of my Whole Point! Rather than Taking Away from it.

They Kind of Set a Whole, New, Wrong "Base Standard", -of Which They Operate From! When This is a Wrong Base and Standard to Begin With!, and Shouldn't be the One that Some Operate From. In the First Place!

In Some Ways Some of it May be a Reality, -But it *Shouldn't* be the Reality!, -In Other Words. They Didn't Have to Stoop or Sink variously Low Like That! To Start With!Thats What I'm Getting At.

They Shud Set a New, More Commonly Decent, Higher Reality Standard! For Themselves. Which They Can *Then* Operate From as their Reality Standard! I'm Duly All For Speaking of One's Reality! But Have Yourself a Better Reality, to the Extent you Really Can! To Then Speak From and Of!

And They Really Can Do Far Better of Themself!, in Many an Area! Hey, -Many Many Other Communities Thruout this World Do It! (Because These Others Have their Accent on the Realistically Higher and Better!) Why Can't and Don't They?! (Because They've Got Their Accent On and Towards the Lower!).

And Many Many Thruout their Own General Ethnicity are also Very Upstanding and Decent as Well! Its Not Like Those Many Such Ones Aren't! I'd Like to Mention This in All Correctness and Fairness. Their Low Leaning Subset Can Give their Larger Group a Bad Name, a Bad Name that Such Decent and Upstanding Ones Don't Deserve! Their Low Looking Subset so Disserves Themselves!

Their "Reality Rationale" is at least Very Much a Cop Out! Its Not Like a Better Carriage of Oneself in Life Can't Be Done!

They are Like Someone who Utterly Messes Up their House! And Then just says that it is the Reality! When They Could and Should Have Kept It, Their Own House or Affairs, -Clean to Begin With! Thats What I Mean by a New and Higher Reality Standard! To Be Coming From! Which Incidentally IS Perfectly Doable.

Whatever Else has either Genuinely or Not Genuinely been Done Wrong to Them by Others in Society, -They Just Lean to and Come From the Low! In at Least Large Measure. I Don't Buy!, -Nor Respect!, -a Low Looking Cop Out Version, -of So Called Reality! That Old Dodge of Their's, -Doesn't Impress me!

And Then They Have the Additional Nerve to Just Callously and Thoughtlessly Impose this on OTHERS Around Them!!!!

And it's Not Only Others in Society who Put Them in such a Position or "Box". It's to Some Extent They Themselves Too.

And They Can and Should be Considerate About it! Commonly Decent and Considerate. Both In and Of Itself, -In it's Own Higher, Commonly Decent Right. And in Such a Common Consideration Toward OTHERS Around Them!

Anyone can Stoop Low and Lower! We're to Look and Reach!, to an All Round High and Higher!, Though!

I Give of course Many if Not All of Them, my Reasons, -in my Earlier Post within this Thread.

But a Topmost One Among Them!, -Has to be that it's Often Being Outright and Inconsiderately Blared About as it So Often Is!!!, -Is of Course a Real and Royal Imposition!!!!! A Trampling, Stepping, and Relbing on the Rights and Sensitivities of OTHERS!, -in the Society Around and About them!

Didn't a Woman, or Women, -in their Life ever Teach them Something About Considerateness and Manners?! If so, These dudes Evidently Didn't Listen! I Know There's Millions Upon Multimillions!, -of American and Other Women Around this World!, -Who Could Really Teach and Tell Them Many a Thing or Two About Such!!! Includeing So Many Admirable and Upstanding Such Women, -Among their Own Ethnicity and Demographic! -I am by No Means Suggesting that This Admirability There, is Outside of Thier Group!!

Regarding the Many Enuff Areas of Longstanding General Moral Slide in our Society, I'd Like to Say, -"Come On once Again Falwell, Robertson, Graham, Keyes, Quayle, and Bennett!, -Where Are You!? And your Ringing Moral Voice?! We Really Once Again Need You!" On our Moral and Family Values of Fronts!!! This Predominant and Prevailing hip hop and rap Cultural Subset as it Overwhelmingly Is!, -Being of course a Major Part of this All!

The Latest Low Dipping Occurring in Massachusetts!, (And Not All that Long Ago in California Too), -Should Only Underscore this Sore Need! I Must Personally Differ!, with the "Pro Crowd", on that Issue!

These Many and Various Moral Lapses and Slides, -Can Very Well Tie In with our National Survival! Which Can Very Well Depend on It!

Other Important "We Must Do's" Exist Too. Defense and Such. And Everyone and Everything in This Country or Free World West, -is By No Means, -a 100 % Immoral Devil or Something! We've Got a Lot of Good, Upstanding, and Decent People Around! They Exist in their Millions upon Multimillions! You See Them Everyday! It's Not All Bad! I even Dare to say that we are the Majority! (Though Perhaps Sometimes or Too Often, a Silent Majority! But We Shudn't Have to be Speaking About it Either!).

But We're a Good Ways Short of Being At our All Round Expected Best There! As a Society in General. So Lets Get Our Act There Together! Our General, All Round, National Moral Act. And Quit Slipping and Dragging There! We Should Be All Round Better of Ourselves than That!

So Quayle, Falwell, and Bennett and Co!, -Get Back in the National Fight and Ring Here! Back on the National Stage and Scene! We and America Need(s) You There!!! I Know it Can Seem Like You're Up Against a Wall!,....But America Really Now Needs You Here! (Ok, -That "Rant's" now over, -But it is Relevant to the General Topic here.)

But God Help Us with them!, the rappers and hip hoppers, -If Roles are Ever Reversed and the Shoe's on the Other Foot! Even Ever So Slightly!, Vis a Vis them! With They the rappers and hip hoppers!

By That, -I Only Mean that if we would ever either Actually, or to their Perception, -Imposingly or Inconsiderately Play our Easy, Classical, or Country Music, -Say!, -In their Prescence!

Let No Reader Get a Wrong Misunderstanding of That, here! By the Earlier Paragraph, I was *NOT* Speaking, Meaning, or Implying!, -of Proactivly Doing Anything Wrong or Improper Toward Them!!! Just So There is No Such Possible Misunderstanding here!, -From Any Reader.

I Could Say So Much More! -But Do These People Mind ?!?!?!?!?!!!!!! [color:"black"] [/color] [email]NY RAT[/email]


Edited by ScottRezaLogan (05/20/04 04:15 PM)
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#25136 - 11/12/06 09:49 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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The real question that determines music from garbage, to me is, "does it have socially redeeming value?"
The current Rap is NEGATIVE, in my opinion.
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#25137 - 11/12/06 10:00 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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Nice to know that I am not the only person who thinks that Rap is spelt with a silent C. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#25138 - 11/14/06 08:49 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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I don't happen to get your Meaning. Maybe I did mistype a "C" for a "P" in there somewhere. [color:"black"] [/color] [email]Leigh_Ratcliffe[/email]
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#25139 - 11/14/06 09:48 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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If I got it right the silent īCī is used as first letter in the word. Iīm not sure whether the result is considered a four letter word so Iīll skip the full spelling.
Rap music isnīt my style of music either.
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#25140 - 11/14/06 09:50 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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well i love all kinds of music.rap,hip hop,rock,oldschool,old rock, jazz, tejano, kumbia, latin rap,etc.. i like everything except country music and emo music <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />(its like nails on a chalkboard to me)but thats just me.

rap is in a bad state right now.even proclaimed rapper Nas has released a abulm called"hip hop is dead". there are still many respectable rappers out there ,you just dont hear them all the time. me and a friend believe that when biggie smalls and tupac shukar died,rap died with it. alot of people look at these guys in a bad way,but had shukar and smalls had they been allowed a longer life,its highly possible he could of brought good change.they spoke their minds and didnt have nonsense music,they had power in their lyrics. if you read some of shukars lyrics withought the music alot of it flows like poetry.
at this point now hip hop is in a vulnerable state,its part of todays culture and thats just the way things work. if someone blast their speakers then o well,its a free country they can do what they like. and i also tend to blast some music here and there but only to good songs and not one hit wonders. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> some songs i cant just beliive were created. each era of time has there preferred choice of muic and all the genres and the language and slang thing well thats life too,everyone in america doesnt have perfect language and everyone uses a litttle slang. i speak respectfully when i need to but when im with my friends well i dont care,i just want to have some fun and not feel governed. but recently i have studied the effects of music and our mood and its all very interesting.certain types of music has a effect on our mood thus if we hear a song with a lot of beat to it,it raises our adrenaline and makes u pumped up and ready to party, and then you have motivational and sad music.
its amazing what music can do to us.


Edited by supermark (11/14/06 10:02 PM)

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#25141 - 11/14/06 10:21 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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Thanks, -I've got it now. [color:"black"] [/color] [email]M_a_x[/email]
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#25142 - 11/14/06 10:47 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
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Though I have covered a lot of bases, -with my Critique and Criticism here, -there are others I'm sure that havn't occurred to me, -and so have been left out. Plus this earlier post of mine, may well suffer from some of the Deficiencies, -of that earlier Writing Style time of mine! (Some doubtless still continue to exist).

So I should either Comprehensively Cover such a Greater Reach, -or attempt to *Adequately* cover a Smaller, more general, amount. (Akin to someone writing a reasonably Detailed Guide to our 50 American States, to give an example. One can't perfectly cover in all detail say 11 of those States, Partially cover in varying amounts 28 others, and say little to Nothing of the other 11 !). So I just give this little Cautionary Caveat of a Notice here! As to this earlier post of mine.

This all said and so, -I of course Remain very Turned Off to and Disapproving of Rap and Hip Hop! As we so overwhelmingly Know and have Known it !!!

Now if they'd Minus Out all of their UN-Acceptable and Utterly Objectionable LCD / LTN / and LOO Elements, -and were just Commonly "Upward" and Decent of themselves!, ( L.L. Cooljay's "I Need Love" comes to mind, from earlier Rap and etc of times), -then such Rap and Hip Hop would likely in my view be at least All Right and OK! But *NOT* with only more of their LCD Same Old Same Old, -as they only continue to stand now!

Enuff Clarifying Peace said on this by me for now! I *do* have some More Important / Better / and More Enjoyable things to be doing! In Life anyway!

I'll close by defining my aforementioned Acronyms, -

LCD = Lowest Common Denominator.

(We should rather put the Accent on going for our "Greatest Common Factor"! Or our all round, Higher, Better, and Truer Selves!).

LTN = Less than Noble.

LOO = Less of Oneself. [color:"black"] [/color] [email]ScottRezaLogan[/email]
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#25143 - 11/14/06 11:48 PM Re: Earplugs for Another Purpose.
Anonymous
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LL Cool J is still the man in my book! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> after all these years of being in the hip hop industry he still has it. all his songs and beats are great. i grew up on all his oldschool songs and i still love them.
my favorites are: Mama said knock you out(one of the best songs ever)
headsprung-- reminds me of partys and dances a few years ago...the good days.haha <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
jack the ripper
cant live withouht my radio
jingling baby
around the way girl
rock the bells
countless others
execuse me now i have the urge to go jam to some ll cool j <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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