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#252421 - 10/30/12 12:31 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: Pete]
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Interesting comment about the bowline. In the "old days" (1950-1960s) it was the preferred knot for tying in and for end loops in the climbing rope - later partially replaced by the figure eight, which has advantages. Good idea to learn them both thoroughly.
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#252424 - 10/30/12 02:39 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: picard120]
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My go to knots are the square, slip, bowline, clove hitch and figure eight. I'm working on learning more but these five have served me well so far.
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#252455 - 10/30/12 07:48 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: picard120]
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I'll tell you the one knot that I need to learn ... it's the knot that you use for tightening cargo. Imagine you've got some cargo in the bed of a truck, and you tie down with a rope. There's a special knot you can tie in the end of the rope - you just cinch it down and adjust the rope length - and it tightens automatically. That's a really nice knot - but I haven't seen it in any book. If someone knows a reference ... please post.

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#252484 - 10/30/12 11:51 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Pete
I'll tell you the one knot that I need to learn ... it's the knot that you use for tightening cargo. Imagine you've got some cargo in the bed of a truck, and you tie down with a rope. There's a special knot you can tie in the end of the rope - you just cinch it down and adjust the rope length - and it tightens automatically. That's a really nice knot - but I haven't seen it in any book. If someone knows a reference ... please post.

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#252501 - 10/31/12 02:00 AM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: picard120]
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KISS, KISS, KISS.

Former climber, Army,....etc.

Water Knot
Butterfly
Trucker Hitch
ALL of the Figure-eights (on a bite, and follow thru(depending))
Fisherman's
Taughtline (also called Turtle??)

Munter/Italian hitches

I feel the Bowline is great but can be "mis tied" too easily by average Joe. Too many variants.....

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#258705 - 04/09/13 02:04 AM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: picard120]
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Philippe Petite releases his new book " why Knot" Tuesday

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#258713 - 04/09/13 11:47 AM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: Ironwood]
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Originally Posted By: Ironwood
I feel the Bowline is great but can be "mis tied" too easily by average Joe. Too many variants.....


I guess I am a moss-backed traditionalist. I have a great fondness for the bowline. The thing is to learn the asicknot thoroughly so you can tie it with your eyes shut, behind your back. Then start on the variants - the one i prefer is bowline on a bight, very useful for rigging, as in lifting a mammoth tusk - something I know we all do frequently.

I have read somewhere that there are fifty bowline variants. I know far fewer than that, the best of which is the double loop bowline - reputed even more secure than the basic knot.

Learn a few knots well and you will be fit to be tied.


Edited by hikermor (04/09/13 12:41 PM)
Edit Reason: typo
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#258719 - 04/09/13 03:06 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
Learn a few knots well and you will be fit to be tied.

Hikermor, I've heard that line before. wink

I also like the bowline. Any knot can be miss-tied.
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#258728 - 04/09/13 05:59 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: TeacherRO]
Eastree Offline
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Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
Philippe Petite releases his new book " why Knot" Tuesday


We just got this in at work yesterday. I looked through it, and I have to say I'm impressed. It comes with a coil of nylon twine inside the cover, supposedly enough to practice every knot listed. I assume for some, you may either need smaller items for tying to, or your own longer piece (I can't open it, as it's merchandise).

Every knot has a story, description, very thorough written instructions, diagrams, and examples for practical use.

I may have to purchase one for further inspection.

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#258729 - 04/09/13 06:20 PM Re: what critical ropes knots often used outdoors ? [Re: picard120]
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ireckon, ironwood - thanks.
I'll check out that trucker hitch.

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