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#242369 - 03/03/12 05:20 PM Storm Shelter Re-Think
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA
i was just looking at the Huffington Post and the slide show of the damage done by the storms.what caught my eye was a photo of a home where not only was the building gone but a small cement block root cellar?furnace room? under the house was open to the sky and looks like it was damaged also.i have in the past suggested that some sort of shelter like that added on or built in would offer protection,i wonder about that now.

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#242372 - 03/03/12 06:02 PM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
Sounds like the covering on the cellar level was not very substantial. I would think that normal flooring wouldnot stand up well to a well developed tornado.
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#242389 - 03/03/12 09:31 PM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
ILBob Offline
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
Blast shelters do not work all that well with direct hits either.

You can make yourself less vulnerable but not invulnerable.
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#242399 - 03/03/12 10:55 PM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
UTAlumnus Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
Short answer is, if its above grade and not heavy masonry/concrete/heavy steel, its toast in a direct hit. Even masonry needs concrete and rebar in the cells or on the outside.

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#242400 - 03/03/12 11:28 PM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: ILBob]
bacpacjac Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: ILBob
You can make yourself less vulnerable but not invulnerable.


A good thing to keep in mind.
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#242404 - 03/04/12 12:28 AM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
Frisket Offline
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Registered: 09/03/10
Posts: 640
It makes me wonder why people dont get diggen? I mean it may be costly to a point but you can always dig dig dig during the off season and it doesnt even have to really be a BIG BIG hole. Then ya just throw somthing in it and cover it up and BAMF shelter?


Edited by Frisket (03/04/12 12:41 AM)
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#242408 - 03/04/12 12:36 AM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
2005RedTJ Offline
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Registered: 01/07/09
Posts: 475
Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
I'm looking into the ones from Cozy Caverns right now. Thinking of burying it with concrete over the top.

http://cozycaverns.com/

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#243183 - 03/15/12 01:41 PM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
Aussie Offline
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Registered: 11/12/10
Posts: 205
Loc: Australia
That Cozy Cabin looks good.

Be aware that the main exit may become blocked by debris, so consider how you may get out that air vent in an emergency (tools and a ladder).

Also consider taking tools with you so you could bash your way out the main entry (car jack, pry bars, axe, etc)

I imagine you need to site it so that flooding is not a risk either.

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#243194 - 03/15/12 06:27 PM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3819
Loc: USA
While I like the idea of a Cozy Cabin and it would be better than my current storm shelter setup, I'd be leery of having only one way out.

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#243211 - 03/16/12 12:24 AM Re: Storm Shelter Re-Think [Re: CANOEDOGS]
GarlyDog Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 776
Loc: The People's Republic of IL
Interesting. The guy that built my house wasn't so crazy after all. We have a room in our basement that has a reinforced concrete ceiling. The only non-concrete surface is the door. I share chaosmagnet's hesitation with using this room. I guess if the house caved in right in front of the door, at least we would still be alive, albeit trapped.
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