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#243373 - 03/19/12 08:33 PM create electrical energy in a war zone ?
picard120 Offline
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I found this video about creating electrical energy in a war zone.

what do you guys think ? is this video for real ?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=77c_1332155711

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#243375 - 03/19/12 08:37 PM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
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No.
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#243381 - 03/19/12 08:57 PM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
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In theory, He Could have a battery pack shoved in the surge protector.
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#243385 - 03/19/12 09:46 PM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
JBMat Offline
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I think he's more full of crap than the Xmas goose. Rates up there with opening a lock with a tennis ball.

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#243389 - 03/19/12 10:56 PM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
ireckon Offline
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It looks possible to me!
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#243393 - 03/20/12 12:21 AM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
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If people think 3-4 lil sparks will light up the world in a infinite loop of energy they got another thing coming.

Also if you do believe this, Isn't that the ground wire he is shocking? How is that infinitely looping threw 2 different wires that is not THAT wire?
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#243394 - 03/20/12 12:29 AM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
roberttheiii Offline
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Registered: 02/13/09
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Clearly this video is a lie. While electromagnetic induction is very real this is not how it works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction

If you thought this was possible consider studying for your technicians license to put things like this in perspective.


Also of note and somewhat related is the fact that with a massive energy source, such as the sun, wires can create heat.

See: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/solar-storm/

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#243395 - 03/20/12 12:57 AM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
Mark_M Offline
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Registered: 11/19/09
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Loc: New Jersey
Nope, BS.

The principals you're thinking of are Faraday's Law and Lenz's Law. An inductor stores energy (current) in its magnetic field. As the current is used, the magnetic field collapses.

Without getting into an overly long and boring technical discussion, an inductor by itself cannot output more energy than you put in. In fact, (due to parasitic capacitance, hysteresis and wire resistance), an inductor can't even put out the same amount of energy as you put in. However, if you influence the inductor with a magnetic field, then it can convert the magnetic field to electricity (as happens in a generator).

The small amount of energy a coil can store would not be sufficient to even light-up a 30W light bulb. It might be able to power a low-voltage neon lamp for a second or two. But not the setup shown. The coil is too small, too loose and uses thick, stranded conductors that would have very high parasitic capacitance and hysteresis.

What is interesting if they can be done effectively, is Piezoelectric or Pyroelectric energy harvesting. This is generating small amounts of current from normal movement or temperature variations and storing it over time in a capacitor or battery, then using that to power electronic devices. Kinetic watches are practical examples of piezo energy harvesting.

So far, Newton's Third Law and the law of conservation of energy have not been overturned. The video is a fraud.
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#243398 - 03/20/12 01:39 AM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
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There are actually three separate coils in that circuit, the ground wire and the two conductors. It is possible to induce a voltage in these coils with a magnetic field or proximity to a powerful radio transmitter or magnatron.

The voltage in the coils depend on the number of turns of wire in the coil and the energy source. That is how mechanical transformers work.

A spark will not be stored or amplified, nor will electrons continue to rotate in the circuit due to electrical resistance.

Theoretically, it is possible for a coil plugged into itself to heat up in the proximity of high-voltage power lines or a high wattage radio station.

I believe that the video is a hoax.
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#243401 - 03/20/12 02:08 AM Re: create electrical energy in a war zone ? [Re: picard120]
dougwalkabout Online   confused
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Very entertaining! I recommend you invest your life's savings immediately, before word gets out ... cool

Assuming no shenanigans (big assumption), it may be nothing more than the semi-controlled discharge of capacitors in a high-end power conditioner. Show me a nice bright bulb after 30 seconds and I'll be intrigued (but not sold).

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