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#243641 - 03/23/12 08:43 AM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
Phaedrus Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/28/10
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Loc: Big Sky Country
Originally Posted By: nursemike
Year one of ets exposure: altoid tin psk.
Year two: 2 altoid tin, psk and fak.
Year three: add third tin for fire starter kit
Year four: pants fall to ground due to psk pocket carry: acquire vest.
Year five: vest proves to be repellent to opposite gender. abandon in favor of rucksack. Psk now weighs sixteen pounds.
Year six: rucksack weight affects equilibrium, resulting in fall from bar stool; abandon ruck for wheeled carry on bag.
Year seven: exploring trailer hitch arrangements to attach second carry-on bag.
Year eight: donate psk collection to boy scout troop, acquire DRPSK.


Ah, gear addiction...such a sad thing! grin
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#243644 - 03/23/12 02:09 PM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
Macgyver Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 88
Loc: Victoria Australia
I guess that depends on what is more important to you, the size or type of the container or the items that you need to have with you.....

I would decide what the PSK will need to do for you and where as well as how you will be carrying it. That will tell you minimum requirements as far as items and it will also tell you maximum size and perhaps the style, shape and qualities of your container.

My thoughts are that a PSK has essentials (knife, signalling, fire, compass, medical and perhaps fishing items) and can be thrown in a big pocket. Anything else goes into my BOB and is easily separated from my PSK or thrown in a pocket if need be.

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#243648 - 03/23/12 03:05 PM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
In my younger years, I was all about go big or go home. Recently it seems that I've crossed some invisable threshold into a new world, and I'm trying to lighten and shrink the load.

So, to answer your question from my new middle aged perspective, I usually do a little of both. Right now, for example, I'm thinking about creating a new kit of urban/subburban outtings. I've got a list of stuff I want to carry, and am going to find a bag that it will all fit in. My goal is to keep it small so that it doesn't become my traditional unwieldly overkill.

That said, I have no doubt that no matter bag I ulitmately choose, I'll fill the nooks and crannies in it in no time. Hopefully I'll keep my head this time though, and leave room for the treasures my son usually finds along the way. My goal this time is for "Mom, can you carry this for me please?" not to mean I have to get a bigger bag. wink


Edited by bacpacjac (03/23/12 03:08 PM)
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#243659 - 03/23/12 04:36 PM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA
my ditch kit/over board kit has to fit in the pocket of my life jacket so it was pick a container that i could cook in and go from there.

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#243666 - 03/23/12 05:44 PM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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This raises a question I was going to start a thread on. I'm looking for a flotation vest with multiple outer pockets, 2-3 external straps and leg straps. In tactical black preferably. Any ideas?

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#243668 - 03/23/12 05:56 PM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: ]
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#243695 - 03/23/12 08:23 PM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA

Snake..i would check out the PFD's used by the Kayak gang.they go over in white water all the time and would want leg straps.the sea kayakers have vests with big pockets so you might look at their sites to see what they use..
the tac vest is a bit "over board"
i just use a PFD from LL Bean with big pockets,

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#243718 - 03/24/12 12:22 AM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
Posts: 1372
I actually pick the container first.
Then adjust the items accordingly.
Like you - I find otherwise that i will fill anything to the brim.
I prefer the "light and fast" approach to life.

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#243732 - 03/24/12 03:57 AM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Phaedrus]
Frisket Offline
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Registered: 09/03/10
Posts: 640
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
Ah, gear addiction...such a sad thing! grin


Omg thank you so much for helping me discover that, Im really loving the Range idiot song friggen awesome!
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#243739 - 03/24/12 06:07 AM Re: Cart before the horse? [Re: Frisket]
Phaedrus Offline
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Originally Posted By: Frisket
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
Ah, gear addiction...such a sad thing! grin


Omg thank you so much for helping me discover that, Im really loving the Range idiot song friggen awesome!


Yeah, he has several really funny songs.
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