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#24296 - 02/11/04 04:06 PM Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
Omega Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 77
Hello, everybody,
I am thinking to buy a very good fixed blade knife for the price $150-$300. So far I learnt that Busse, Chris Reeve and Randall are in that range. But, unfortunately, I cannot find any comparisons between these knives. Therefore it is difficult to decide which one to get. I do not know which models I should consider, but the main criterias for me are that the blade be around 4", comfortable handle, robust and convenience (easy to sharpen and that the edge stays sharp for a long time).
Could you advise me about your experince with these kniives to find out which one suits me the best.
Regards,
Omega

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#24297 - 02/11/04 04:36 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
Tjin Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 1821
no experians with those blade's. i got a fallkniven S1 and F1. They are both very strong, good knife's which holds a good edge, but because of the thickniss it doesn't cut certain things aswell ( and is much harder to sharpen ). These 2 blade used to be mine favortie, now days i prefer the cheap and scary sharp mora knife's. Not nearly as strong as those fallkniven, but they slice/cut much beter due to there thinner and single beavel blade. I got a folding saw to complement them.
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#24298 - 02/11/04 07:08 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
Anonymous
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I have heard great things about Chris reeves fixed blades as well as Randall. The Randall blades seem to be the best value for money. You can get them for a lot less than $150. However I have heard bad things about the cutting performance of Busse knifes and have experienced first hand the terrible attitude that the designer has towards other blades and their users.

This is just my opinion though <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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#24299 - 02/11/04 07:55 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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www.knifeforums.com has information and personal feedback on all these knives and countless others. Knife selection is very personal. $150-$300 is a chunk of change for anybody. You can get a superb knife from many makers for far less. If your assembling a basic kit, that premium sleeping bag will be far more critical than a high end knife. Of the three, my choice would be the Chris Reeve. The handle is round and steel, not the best for some grips or handling in hot or cold temperatures. This has a cheap fix by slipping on an innertube section. I too, carry an F1 Fallkniven and several backup Moras. If you are relatively new to knives buy a few Moras. They're cheap, excellent to learn basic sharpening and teach expensive blades what sharp should be. You must also give consideration to the sheath. The best knife is a lost knife if the sheath is junk.

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#24300 - 02/11/04 08:52 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
adam Offline
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Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 256
Loc: Long Island, NY
You might take a look at the swamp rat line of knives they have some selections that may fit your need. BTW you don't mention any specifics for the intended task of these knives. It would be a big help to know what you plan on using your knife for.

http://www.swampratknifeworks.com


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#24301 - 02/11/04 10:39 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Here is a knife, although a lot more then you wanted to spend <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />.
Pete

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2223501469&category=43325

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#24302 - 02/11/04 11:47 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
bat69 Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 78
Loc: Fl, USA
I had a randall model 15 airman ( 5,5 in blade )and really liked it with the exception of the handle material and design. ( it was a black plastic type material, and had finger notches in it..) It held a good edge, and the sheath was pretty sturdy. it also had a hole for a lanyard in the handle, something I personally consider a must for any survival/hunting/camping knife I carry. I personally dont care for finger "grooves" or "notches" as I find them limiting in the use of the knife. But as far as the cutting design and quality was concerned I was happy with it.

As far as Reeve knives go: I have no personal experience with them. After looking at his webite I would personally go for the 5.5 in "green beret" with the nylon sheath ( leather takes way too long to dry for me..)as the blade style would be perfect for survival/hunting or camping needs. the handle apprears to be high quality, minimally contoured to the fingers/hand,and has a lanyard hole. The only drawbacks I see is that its "subdued" : the blade is black, the handle is grey and the nylon sheath OD green. I understand why, as this blade is designed for Special Forces, but as a survival blade could be very easy to lose "in the green" if taken out of the sheath ( which has a nice secure handle snap collar ) and not attached to your body or equipment 24 hrs a day.

The next Reeve blade I would suggest would be the Mountaneer 1. 4.00 in blade length ( 185.00 according to the website) nice practical blade design , lanyard hole in the handle. The biggest drawback is that the knife and sheath are both black and that the sheath appears to be a "slip sheath" - no positive way to secure the blade with provided snap collar or thong unless you use rawhide or a bootlace and do it yourself thru the eyelet at the top of the sheath ( high risk of loss at night if dropped or layed down ).

Just my 2 cents..

Right now I carry a Puma "hunters friend" (circa 65 I believe ) that was handed down to me by my late grandfather. Granted it's a working family heirloom but the knife is a dream to handle, holds a wicked edge, and has skinned many a deer. Today I couldnt recommend a modern Puma as they have eliminated the lanyard hole in the handle and the quality seems to have slipped a bit.

hope this helps

Matt

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#24303 - 02/12/04 05:24 AM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
David Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 245
Loc: Tennessee (middle)
Pete--

<Incredulous tone on> Where can you get Randalls for a lot less that $150?!? (Aside for a model or two, that is...) You'll have people queueing up outside the door in no time flat!
<incredulous tone off> :-)

David

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#24304 - 02/12/04 12:12 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
Anonymous
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Interesting question, interestingly framed, and you've already gotten some excellent responses, I see.

I have owned a few Randalls, and one of my best friends that I camped with at the time owned Chris Reeve knives, so we had a chance to do some side-by-side comparisons and tests.

Before I go further, let me say this... I own a lot of knives, and have owned a lot more in the past, all of which "seemed like a good idea at the time", and at least 80 percent of them have turned out to be "drawer queens" rather than users. All three of the makers you mention are known for relatively heavy knives. I have no idea what your circumstances are, but if you're going on serious adventuring, in the active military, a bush pilot or something- if you KNOW you're going in harm's way, they may be just the thing. However, if not, I'd advise doing some serious soul searching. No knife you own will ever do you a bit of good unless it's on your person when you actually need it, and you may be amazed how easy and tempting it becomes, after "the honeymoon is over", to leave a heavy knife behind. As I've gotten older (and hopefully at little wiser) I've come to think that the real question isn't what's the best tool for the job, it's what's the best tool that you're willing to carry every single day, all day, for years at a time in which you may never really need it, so that it IS with you when the need arises. If that turns out to be a heavy knife, you'll be a very unusual person. The man with a 2-inch Victorinox Classic in his pocket is a hundred times better equipped to survive than the proud owner of a dozen first-class survival knives that he doesn't happen to have with him.

Ok, that having been said, I was far more impressed with the steel, edge holding, workmanship, and durability in the Reeve knives my friend had, than I was with the performance of my own Randalls. The problem back then was that I didn't care for his designs (this was before his folders, and they are an exception- I still don't care much for his fixed-blade designs). Now there is a solution, there is a fixed-blade Reeve knive that was designed by Bill Harsey, who designed both of the folders that I choose between to carry every day... that's the "Green Beret" or "Yarborough". Excellent design, excellent maker.

I'm not a fan of blackened blades for other reasons, but I don't share bat69's concern about it being "subdued". First off, I would VERY STRONGLY advise that you get in the habit of NEVER laying your knife down. It's admittedly difficult (more so with some carries than others), but if you don't get in that habit it will likely disappear eventually, and, depending on timing, you may too. Secondly, it's my opinion that you only need one bright item of equipment to make yourself visible to rescuers, but if a LOT of your equipment is bright, it becomes very difficult or impossible to make yourself quickly invisible if the need arises- and it does. Man is still by far the most dangerous animal on this planet, and there are occasiouns when you just don't want to stand out like a neon sign.

So, of the selection you name, there are Randalls that would do, and other Reeve knives that would do, but I would run, not walk, to the Harsey-designed Reeve-built knife. Consider that the third vote, by my count, for Reeve and the second for this particular knife, if for an entirely different set of reasons.

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#24305 - 02/12/04 03:36 PM Re: Busse, Chris Reeve or Randall
Omega Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 77
Hello, everybody,
Thank you all for replies. They all were useful. There was a question what I intend to use the knife for. Well, the most common thing I will do with the knife is the knife will accompany me during my travels, including abroad. I will mainly use the knife for cooking, but I do not want a cooking knife because I want to take the same knife for camping, hunting, fishing and shooting my bow or crossbow. When I shoot from bow and crossbow, I need some strong knife that I could take arrows out from trees. Folding knives are more convenient, I agree, but I feel my Spyderco may break down when I try to get arrows out of trees. And I hate washing folders after cuting meat, fixed blades are much better.
I also travel to very unpopular places like mountains of Kyrgyzstan, deserts of Kazahstan or countryside of Brazil. Often, in order to be polite, I will have to give my knife to local people (as already happened) who often misuse them (like choping bones and splitting logs) but it is loo late to ask them not to so (this way I lost two knives, my father mor than six!). I get attached to my knives and don't want them to be broken. Knife should be of a high quality because I myself also break things easily, even Spydercos and Victorinoxes (broke both in less than 3 years I bought them). The blade length, as I already mentioned, preferably not longer than 5 ", may be even 5" is too long. Longer blades are not convenient.
I looked at Scandinavian knives and I do like them. They are very good in hand, beatiful, reasonably priced and easy to resharpen. But I think I may break the knife, therefore I want a knife with a very long guarantee. And I did not know any Scandinavian firm that gives guarantee longer than 5 years.
Regards,

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