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#242180 - 03/01/12 06:24 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dougwalkabout]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
I am surprised that the solution of a big candle and a small Bic hasn't even been raised.


I mentioned that above, just not the same words. cool
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#242183 - 03/01/12 06:30 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dweste]
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Has anyone tried using those re-lighting trick party candles in the rain? Just curious...
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#242198 - 03/01/12 07:31 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dweste]
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Nor has my method of a small can of gas and a trip flare been mentioned. Only did it once, but it worked really really well.

And my platoon was very happy too.

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#242199 - 03/01/12 07:59 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dweste]
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hey bacpacjac:

help please - your link doesn't get us to the vid you mean

thnx!

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#242208 - 03/01/12 10:22 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: ireckon]
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Originally Posted By: ireckon
Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
I am surprised that the solution of a big candle and a small Bic hasn't even been raised.


I mentioned that above, just not the same words. cool


Aha! Yes you did. Missed that.

I haven't used a big candle-in-a-can, though I have used a tealight with some extra wicking like TP jammed down into the wax. Anything with a long-burning, insistent flame makes the job easier. I generally just carry a candle stub from those long-burning Ikea candles. And in various pockets, there will be a few Coghlans fire sticks (they don't get messy on you).

Around here, a few extra sticks and bark bits have generally been enough to shield the fledgling fire. I haven't had to make fires in the midst of the relentless monsoons seen in coastal areas.

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#242211 - 03/01/12 11:24 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: Meadowlark]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: Meadowlark

Has anyone tried using those re-lighting trick party candles in the rain? Just curious...


I haven't tested these in the rain, but I am impressed and slighted scared with how these trick candles stay lit. Note they do extinguish with a wet paper towel. So, rain may kill them too, but I think in the wind is where trick candles would shine. They seem to burn quite a bit faster than normal candles. I guess that's because the wick is thicker. They're small and light. I went ahead and packed a few of these in a car kit as backup.
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#242221 - 03/02/12 01:08 AM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: ireckon]
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If you have wind playing around your fire, along with rain, task #1 is to devise an effective shelter. Until you do that, you are basicallyjust wasting your time and matches...
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#242223 - 03/02/12 01:26 AM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dweste]
ireckon Offline
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This is not in response to your post, hikermor, but this candle is claimed to resist wind, snow, and rain:

http://windproofcandles.wordpress.com/

However, I have not tried them. Usually, they have always been out-of-stock when I tried to purchase. (no affiliation) I wonder what's in them. The description says they're tealight candles, but the size is 8 cm or 15 cm. That should provide more perspective to the pics.
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#242238 - 03/02/12 01:21 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dweste]
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DS and I are going to try this Swedish Fire Torch technique this weekend. It seems like it would offer additional protection from the wind and rain:

http://m.youtube.com/?client=mv-google&rdm=4psit66ko#/watch?v=WfRovJ1KcCg
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#242277 - 03/02/12 09:39 PM Re: Making fire in the rain: best practices? [Re: dweste]
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I purchased a Brunton Storm lighter for this. One of the best things I have ever purchased for the outdoors. The little torch like flame is super hot and can be held at any angle. Perfect for lighting soggy stuff in a hurry or lighting tinder at odd angles without messing up the pile. I hear this type of lighter may have problems at very high altitudes but it has not been a concern of mine.

Don't laugh at the road flare idea either. I always have one in my winter pack. A 10 minute job cut in half and then sealed with hot glue on the cut end. I then seal the whole flare with my vacuum sealer to keep it waterproof and toss in the pack. Lightweight, easy to use and burns like hell for 3-5 minutes. With this I don't need to screw around with cotton balls, Esbit tabs or wetfire cubes. No cutting to the middle of dry wood or making fuzz sticks either, Just snap a bunch of wood by hand and toss the lit flare in the pile. It will flame finger to wrist sized pieces of wet wood with ease. I usually don't even need to remove my gloves.

Trust me, You can probably get a fire going with wet rocks using a flare.

On the other hand, Maybe I am just lazy ....

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