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#24197 - 02/09/04 01:22 AM altoid tin kit tips
Anonymous
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I am assembling my first Altoids PSK (should we just abbreviate it as an APSK??? <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />) and have found a couple things which may be of interest...sorry if they've been discussed before, I love reading all the old posts here, just don't feel it'd be appropriate to post to one too old.

Keep in mind that I have larger kits that I maintain and this is the first time I've actually saved an Altoids tin! (One medium sized first aid kit, one belt pouch/shoulder strap PSK, and 2 car kits for 1 car <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)

Options or Suggestions:

1. Break a hacksaw blade to fit the length of the lid without interfering with the lid closing, fasten to lid with two small pieces of electrical tape. The blade could be attached to another object to make a small saw or could be used with one's hand.

2. If including safety pins or paper clips, wrap 4 - 10 feet of dental floss around one of them. The pin/clip makes wrapping easy to tie off and the floss is good for flossing and sewing.

3. Try to fit as much as possible into the lid. I have hacksaw blade, razor blade, and 2 sewing needles attached with electrical tape.

4. Butterfly bandages take up a minute amount of room, include at least 2 in your kit. They can fit along the side of the tin.

5. Include at least 1 of each of 3 different size buttons. I feel sewing kits (however large or small) are extremely important in any situation. I've picked one BDU pant button, one reg shirt button and one small shirt collar button.

One thing to keep in mind is that I view a small PSK as a supplementary unit. One really only has what is strapped and physically attached to one's body. Anything can fall out of a pocket. Please feel free to give any congrats or criticism to these ideas.

It has been very interesting trying to work out the logistics to packing a kit this small, but I continue to find more room to add more things. I just started this evening, so it is not close to being complete or full yet, but these are some things I noticed that I hadn't seen mentioned before.

I also had one question, how would a body go about polishing one of these fine tins?

Thanks everyone, it's nice to be able to participate in a forum/board that is mature , intellegent, and helpful! <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

BlackOps


Edited by blackops (02/09/04 01:30 AM)

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#24198 - 02/09/04 02:23 AM Re: altoid tin kit tips
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2995
How about either a reciprocating saw or jigsaw blade, both are small and a bit thicker than a hacksaw blade to they don't bend as easily (I do have a mini hacksaw in a couple of my kits, Ace/Truevalue hardware has a UA made plastic $5 lightweight handle that the hacksawblade slides into and 1/2 sticks out, very nice, but hacksaw blades do bend quite easily as they are intended to be used under tension by the ends)
I hadn't thought about the buttons. I've started including my clothing in my thoughts about EDC gear and have started standardizing on a few items in an almost uniform like fashion so I only have a couple types of buttons.
I don't have any altoid tins. I have tried some from co-workers and have found that they all have sugar substitutes which give me a bad headache (diet cola/pop does the same). So I've had to build my kit around something else.

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#24199 - 02/09/04 02:52 AM Re: altoid tin kit tips
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Good point about the saw blades, the hack blades were just what I had lying around, and I was very suprised at how easy it was to break and fit in the tin. I figured the blade would need to be bent a few times before it broke, but instead it just snapped in half.

Also, even if you can't eat the candies, $2 for a fairly secure tin isn't that bad of a deal. Most things are made out of plastic or paper nowadays anyways. I still remember my mom bringing home the groceries and she'd have that nice big tin containing the saltine crackers!

Thanks for the reply! <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#24200 - 02/09/04 02:09 PM Re: altoid tin kit tips
David Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 245
Loc: Tennessee (middle)
BlackOps--

Search the forum for "hacksaw blade"--just remember to set the date range to "all". There are several threads.

I remember seeing one idea (including photos) of a modification to an Altoids tin, which permitted using the tin as a handle for a jig saw blade, but I can't find that thread at the moment.

It consisted of a small slot in the end of the tin, sized for a tight fit on the shank of the blade, and a small screw & nuts to pass through the shank & tin, to secure it. Don't know how practical it would be, nor how strong, but, 'tis an idea, at least.

David

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#24201 - 02/09/04 02:43 PM Re: altoid tin kit tips
Tjin Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 1821
not the post, but a link from a site with that: http://www.survival.com/best.htm

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#24202 - 02/09/04 02:53 PM Re: altoid tin kit tips
Anonymous
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Hi,
Quote:
I remember seeing one idea (including photos) of a modification to an Altoids tin, which permitted using the tin as a handle for a jig saw blade, but I can't find that thread at the moment.

Do you mean something like this?
Tin & saw

Greetings,

Sir Vivor

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#24203 - 02/09/04 04:59 PM Re: altoid tin kit tips
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
An uncommon but potentially disastrous gear failure is the zipper on a sleeping bag. Larger safety pins can be used to stitch the bag closed. Then take some cordage and lace through the eyes. If your going to include a hacksaw blade, a metal match is a natural pairing. My recent hand injury has me again practising with and appreciating Sparklites. Firemaking should always be redundant, even in a minimalist PSK. A Sparklite for one handed use, metal match for longterm, all weather and simple strike anywheres. Everyone understands a match, and the trained survivalist could very well be the incapacitated member in a party.

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#24204 - 02/10/04 03:45 AM Re: altoid tin kit tips
Comanche7 Offline
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Registered: 07/04/02
Posts: 436
Loc: Florida
BlackOps,

Just a quick thought on the hacksaw blade. Check out the LENOX / HACKMASTER brand of bi-metal type blades. I've posted about these in the past here on ETS. In a nutshell, they can be literally bent and tied into a single knot, then released and used extensively. I see that another poster has mentioned setting up the search all dates, the search function here normally seems to default to the last week or so, my experience is that you probably need to reset it on a regular basis. You will be amazed at the things you can find on ETS forums with keyword searches. Welcome aboard and please feel free to jump in...

Regards,
Comanche7

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#24205 - 02/10/04 02:46 PM Re: altoid tin kit tips
billvann Offline
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Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 780
Loc: NE Illinois, USA (42:19:08N 08...
Test the blades on your MFS. Not all metals spark the same, some are far easier than others.
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#24206 - 02/10/04 04:59 PM Integrated Hacksaw in the lid
Anonymous
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Integrated Hacksaw in the altoid's lid ... interesting

http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/m/mbennett/minikit.html

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