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#240718 - 02/08/12 08:27 AM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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Any chance you could contact the manufacturer for technical data on these anchors?
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#240719 - 02/08/12 08:27 AM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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A steel barrier may work for front end collisions, but what if you land in a lake or roll over and need to exit through the rear windows?

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#240734 - 02/08/12 05:51 PM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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If you use a cage, I think the loose items should be immobilized somehow, maybe with strong rope or mover straps would be even better. If you keep heavy items loose, Netownian physics may come into play during a collision and destroy the cage. Of course, the stronger the cage, the chance of such destruction goes down.
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#240777 - 02/09/12 02:12 AM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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In Australia Cargo Barriers are common place in 4x4s. I have one myself.

Here, these are all safety rated and designed to stop things from the back ending up in the front. There are a standard dealer option for just about every 4x4 on the market, so there are no issues with warranties, insurance or lease payments.

They can be removed and added, normally be removing a series of bolts, but I've never bothered to do that, the barrier lives in the back full time.

Another popular option are draw and shelving systems like Black Widow http://www.bwidow.com.au/ units. (No Affiliation). These meet local collision standards and work really well. They cost, but the quality is very good.

I have a crago barrier, and a I then added a steel shelf horizontally, which is anchored to the chassis. I have a couple of boxes which "lock" under the shelf to prevent them moving, then I put lighter items (clothes, bedding etc) on top.

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#240784 - 02/09/12 03:39 AM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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Something like this is what I'm leaning toward. But this particular one is really expensive:



http://www.us-rope-cable.com/HTML/cargoWEB.html

Still need to figure out the anchors.

David

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#240786 - 02/09/12 04:11 AM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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For real security I think that a solid barrier is best.
I attach sleeping mats and jackets to the passenger side of the barrier with elastic shock cord.

Because it is bolted in, you don't need to worry about anchor points.

Some models have a small "trap door" in them, so you can access things through the barrier



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#241545 - 02/20/12 06:35 PM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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Sometimes the most obvious and simple things are the best option.

Poking around in the far back of the truck, where the optional 3rd row seat folds down, I discovered I already had a heavy-duty securing system with anchors into the frame, and web straps designed to secure hundreds of pounds of delicate, odd-shaped cargo: the seat belts!

I moved my big Stanley plastic job box back there pulled the seat belts across it, and secured them to each other with a heavy carabiner. Don't see how I can improve on that much.

Dave

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#241556 - 02/21/12 12:05 AM Re: Advice on securing cargo in an SUV [Re: bigmbogo]
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Originally Posted By: bigmbogo
Thanks for the ideas.

I doubt I will be installing any permanent cargo boxes. This is still my daily driver. Even if I did, I'd still need to figure out what to anchor it to.

I like the wire mesh cage idea, like in a cop car. But it would need to be removable so I could still bet to the third row seat, or put a piece of lumber in lengthwise, etc.

I think the main challenge will be to install anchors, and after that, the actual cage/net can be added. I am going to poke around to see what sort of anchor points there may be under the floor. I figure a seatbelt is anchored with a simple big bolt, so there is a way to do it.

I do have six small anchors on the floor back there, but I can't tell how solidly they are attached. I'm guessing not very. I'll try to get a look at how they are mounted. Maybe I'll be surprised.

Keep any additional ideas coming! Thanks!

David

Decent anchors can be had cheap - using Grade 8 nuts and bolts, and using some steel plate on the underside to help distribute the load. I'd recommend eyelets or D-loops.

I'm pretty sure that most of the "floor" of cars is some sort of polymer-plastic-non metal material. So even if you have a phenomenally strong anchor point, the actual floor might fail first.

Getting some decent rachet-straps to hold cargo would be good too. As an example:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-...p;storeId=10051

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