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#240975 - 02/12/12 12:27 PM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: bacpacjac]
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Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
Watching the"Masters of Survival", it was interesting to hear each of Les, Dave, Cody, Bear and the Hawkes give accolades to the bic. "Just carry a ding dang lighter!" sayeth Mike.

I EDC a bic but they don't like the cold so I don't depend on it.


Very true, but 5 min in the armpit and they fire up just fine.
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#240977 - 02/12/12 02:01 PM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: haertig]
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Originally Posted By: haertig
Micro size and ultra lightweight are not concerns of mine. I'm really only a dayhiker these days and I don't mind a few extra ounces if that gives me a significant survival edge. I am not one of those "you can split a match into four useable pieces" kind of guy. You're more likely to find me carrying multiple match safes choke full of tons of matches. And a BIC. And a firesteel. And a small fresnal lens. I want that "survival edge" and having all these things might just supply that edge.


Micro size and ultra lightweight (within limits) do appeal to me as a climber and backpacker, but I agree with you about redundancy for making fire. The ability to make a fire, which implies at least some shelter, is critical to survival in the wilds under most conditions. If there are no serious medical issues, lighting a fire makes a huge difference - you will be OK.
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#240982 - 02/12/12 04:31 PM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: haertig]
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Originally Posted By: haertig
These are not heavy items. I hadn't thought about the fire paste though. That sounds like it might be a good addition.


The one thing I can see with the fire paste is that it comes in a pretty hefty tube and isn't easily divided down. Otherwise it would be an excellent assurance of fire.

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#240989 - 02/12/12 07:01 PM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
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Originally Posted By: Byrd_Huntr
Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
Watching the"Masters of Survival", it was interesting to hear each of Les, Dave, Cody, Bear and the Hawkes give accolades to the bic. "Just carry a ding dang lighter!" sayeth Mike.

I EDC a bic but they don't like the cold so I don't depend on it.


Very true, but 5 min in the armpit and they fire up just fine.


Right again, Bryd! I can be so impatient!
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#240990 - 02/12/12 07:19 PM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: bacpacjac]
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What about one of those micro torches the dope fiends use? They're small and according to the catalog descriptions, very effective. Would'nt mind one of the lighter sized gizmos in my medical kit.

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#241000 - 02/12/12 11:23 PM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: unimogbert]
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Originally Posted By: unimogbert
The one thing I can see with the fire paste is that it comes in a pretty hefty tube and isn't easily divided down. Otherwise it would be an excellent assurance of fire.


Could you store a smaller amount of fire paste in a section of plastic straw that is heat-crimped on each end, like some people do with petroleum jelly cotton?

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#241004 - 02/13/12 12:04 AM Re: Starting FIRST fire? [Re: bigreddog]
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Hand sanitizer? Lights pretty easily from a ferro rod, available in many different sizes, cheap, multipurpose. Not as immune to wind, though.


Edited by Mark_M (02/13/12 12:05 AM)
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