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#239498 - 01/17/12 02:27 AM Butane Adapter WARNING
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Cheap canister gas. Sounds nice, yes?

I mean in warm weather, why not just use those cheap 100% butane canisters? All you need is a little $5 adapter off eBay, right?


Well, yes, but use it wrong and that little adapter could cost you big time.


So what are the issues? Can it be used safely? I cover this in my Butane Adapter WARNING post on my blog.

HJ
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#239502 - 01/17/12 03:55 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: Hikin_Jim]
jzmtl Offline
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Registered: 03/18/10
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That pickup tube inside canister is sneaky, had me scratching my head when my tripod style adapter didn't work with PR without flare up until you told me about it.

Although once known it gives some interesting options for intentional liquid feed, even in warm weather those canisters will cool down enough to not vaporize well after a while of use.

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#239503 - 01/17/12 03:56 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: Hikin_Jim]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 2741
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Eyebrows? We don't need no stinkin' eyebrows!

Connections are always the weak link, especially when temps drop. "Do not disturb" is always the best policy.

I assume propane/butane fuels south of the '49th also have "artificial skunk" (mercaptans) added?

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#239505 - 01/17/12 03:59 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: Hikin_Jim]
fooman Offline
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Registered: 05/15/08
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Thanks for the warning Jim. Hope your eyebrows are ok smile

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#239506 - 01/17/12 04:08 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: jzmtl]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: jzmtl
Although once known it gives some interesting options for intentional liquid feed, even in warm weather those canisters will cool down enough to not vaporize well after a while of use.
Yes. If you have a stove that can handle it and you're careful, there's no reason not to deliberately feed liquified gas into the burner. Just make sure your stove is warmed up and has a pre-heat mechanism.

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#239507 - 01/17/12 04:09 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: dougwalkabout]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
I assume propane/butane fuels south of the '49th also have "artificial skunk" (mercaptans) added?
Yep.

HJ
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#239508 - 01/17/12 04:09 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: fooman]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: fooman
Thanks for the warning Jim. Hope your eyebrows are ok smile
No eyebrows were harmed in the making of this blog post. smile

HJ
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#239509 - 01/17/12 04:38 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: Hikin_Jim]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Jokes aside, it's a good warning.

Liquid fuel into a vapour burner is bad news.

I remember a warning some years ago, where 20 lb. propane cylinders used for agricultural marking had been illegally rerouted to the civilian (BBQ) market. These had an internal tube to the bottom of the cylinder. The result was a flood of liquid propane into the burner, and when you hit the igniter ... holy cr@p!

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#239513 - 01/17/12 05:46 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: dougwalkabout]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
Jokes aside, it's a good warning.

Liquid fuel into a vapour burner is bad news.

I remember a warning some years ago, where 20 lb. propane cylinders used for agricultural marking had been illegally rerouted to the civilian (BBQ) market. These had an internal tube to the bottom of the cylinder. The result was a flood of liquid propane into the burner, and when you hit the igniter ... holy cr@p!
That was about my reaction about a minute before I snapped this photo:


That photo was taken after things had settled down.

Liquid feed into a gas burner is nothing to mess around with. Make sure one's stove is up to the task.

HJ
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#239516 - 01/17/12 07:26 AM Re: Butane Adapter WARNING [Re: Hikin_Jim]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Registered: 06/03/09
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Loc: Norway
That's what we call a "Home Guard bonfire" around here - because no one can make a huge fire ball like a cold and coffee thirst home guard reservist who has spent at least 15 years to forget all he ever learned about stove operation....

Buthane is outside my comfort zone (and not suited at all for my climate zone) - but learning more about exotic fuels and stove operation is always great fun cool

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