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#221985 - 04/20/11 03:06 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: LesSnyder]
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Originally Posted By: LesSnyder
OD mosquito netting.... camouflage, sunshade, fish net, coarse filter media, bandage material, cut/woven for cordage


Nice Dont Forget melting snow over a cup to collect water. Fill it with snow and hang it over the cup near enough the fire to feel a slight heat but not enough to destroy the netting.
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#221986 - 04/20/11 03:12 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Frisket]
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I don't understand the concept of "snow" is it an acronym? smile


Edited by LesSnyder (04/20/11 03:13 PM)

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#221987 - 04/20/11 03:13 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Frisket]
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Uhhhh no? Was just mentioning somthing i seen on teh ray mears show.
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#221990 - 04/20/11 03:23 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Frisket]
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Originally Posted By: Frisket
Uhhhh ok..?

Weights nothing and takes up no space,
Slingshot,
Pole spear,
Multiple tourniquet's when cut up,
Can be used to apply tension to certain types of traps,
Sealing up the ends of clothing to prevent creepy crawlies from getting up your pant legs and such,

Cant really figure out much more then that but really it is a 5 foot by 6 inch band of elastic Im sure theres plenty other uses. The fact that it can be used to make multiple tourniquets for its size and weight sells me on it alone personally.


Can be use to administer fluids rectally
can help access water in difficult place
can be use when use a solar water distiller

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#221991 - 04/20/11 03:23 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Frisket]
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yes. it's real. but sssshhhhh.... you'll remind Mother Nature that it can still snow here through May.
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#221993 - 04/20/11 03:41 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: paramedicpete]
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Not to familiar with the laws of the US. But it was my understanding that the only place it is mandatory to treat someone was Quebec. Here I Alberta it's not mandatory, by the law. My own ethics wouldn't allow me not to help. As for the danger of getting sued. Getting sued and loosing are 2 things. If you can prove you acted in the benefits of the other person interest and in the limit of your knowledge. Now there a note on that subject. Health care professional, beside if your a MD, outside work you are at the same level as a first aid person. For example as a flight nurse I can intubate, because I have medical direction to do so. Without my flight suit I can intubate " i have the knowledge" but I doubt I would be protected.


As for the tourniquet debate. What the recommend now is:
direct pressure ( no more use of pressure point) and compressing dressing
if still bleed, you can use hemostatic agent ( ex: quick clot)
if bleed continue you can applied a tourniquet. Leave if your less then 2 hour from facility, there amputation or been on more then 6 hours

If it will take more then 2 hours to get to facility
get ready to applied direct pressure and have a hemostatic product ready.
slowly release tension. if you can't manage the bleeding reapplied. LIfe over limb in that case.

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#221994 - 04/20/11 03:42 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Frisket]
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My multi use item would be my water bladder

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#221998 - 04/20/11 04:55 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Frisket]
Alex Offline
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Just a reminder. We are talking about most innovative item, not just multi use. Let's stick to the topic.

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#222000 - 04/20/11 04:58 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: TheMountainRn]
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 2832
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: TheMountainRn

As for the tourniquet debate. What the recommend now is:
direct pressure ( no more use of pressure point) and compressing dressing
if still bleed, you can use hemostatic agent ( ex: quick clot)
if bleed continue you can applied a tourniquet. Leave if your less then 2 hour from facility, there amputation or been on more then 6 hours

If it will take more then 2 hours to get to facility
get ready to applied direct pressure and have a hemostatic product ready.
slowly release tension. if you can't manage the bleeding reapplied. LIfe over limb in that case.


I was trained that the TK stays on, period, until you reach definitive care. In that class we were also told that they're saving a lot of limbs even after long TK applications.

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#222009 - 04/20/11 06:05 PM Re: Your Most Innovative Survival Kit Item [Re: Alex]
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Registered: 09/12/01
Posts: 858
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: Alex
The ScotteVest Tactical System V 5.0 is the most innovative piece of EDC gear I ever had. It's a nesting combination of 2 vests with detachable sleeves, which one can accommodate to any kind of weather (0-100F), and which allow to carry a lot of [survival] items (small and large) concealed in it.

They don't make it anymore, but it's a combination of Revolution and Fleece 5.0, zippering one in another.


I haven't used the tact vest - I use the normal ScotteVest but have been thinking of buying another one. Very nice piece of equipment clothing.

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