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#221035 - 04/06/11 11:27 PM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: ponder]
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#221045 - 04/07/11 12:55 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: bacpacjac]
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I dunno, BPJ, I have a few problems with some of the things on the list, while others are right on. The biggest whopper is "store batteries in the freezer" - a very bad move. it isn't good for the batteries and takes space away from critical supplies like coffee ice cream.

For emergency use, I rely on lithium batteries - they have really good power, very long life, work well in cold, store for at least ten years, and are significantly lighter than alkalines. For daily use, I am phasing to quality rechargeables like Eneloops. I don't put alkaline batteries in anything I value.

I am amused at the list's reliance on second string suppliers like US Cavalry and Brigade Quartermaster. There are lots better sources out there - like good old REI for a lot of very decent basics, as well as many specialty sources.

I was glad to see that they did mention stocking reloading supplies in the firearms section. Fore me, that makes a lot of sense, and it is a rewarding pastime, to boot.

Again, some things are good, others are OK, and some are misses. Don't trust any one list.
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#221047 - 04/07/11 12:57 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: ponder]
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Originally Posted By: ponder
RE HIJACK

POST A URL OF YOUR FAVORITE!
If you don't have one, wait until we have five good ones.

1. http://www.abysmal.com/LDS/Preparedness/Preparedness.pdf
2. http://www.ready.gov/america/_downloads/checklist.pdf
3.
4.
5.


It's really a hijack, as the title of the thread asks a question, and we were discussing that. Anyway, here is the emergency prep list from Homeland Security for comparison
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#221051 - 04/07/11 01:14 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: ponder]
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I agree Hikermor. It's got some flaws. It looks like it was written in 1991 so the out-of-date information may be a factor. It's a list I used when I first got started, after I found ETS. It helped me take it to the next level, with a lot of thought and judgement calls of my own.
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#221053 - 04/07/11 01:16 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: ponder]
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I agree Hikermor. It's got some flaws. It looks like it was written in 1991 so the out-of-date information may be a factor. It's a list I used when I first got started, after I found ETS. It helped me take it to the next level, with a lot of thought and judgement calls of my own.

EDIT: Sorry for the duplicate post. Technology issues!


Edited by bacpacjac (04/07/11 07:51 PM)
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#221056 - 04/07/11 01:42 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
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POST A URL OF YOUR FAVORITE!
If you don't have one, wait until we have five good ones.

1. http://www.abysmal.com/LDS/Preparedness/Preparedness.pdf
2. http://www.ready.gov/america/_downloads/checklist.pdf
3. http://codeready.org/getprepared.cfm
4.
5.

My add at #3.

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#221058 - 04/07/11 02:28 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: bacpacjac]
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Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
You guys took frontsies to bacpacjac's link. That's not very polite. Ahh whatever, moving her link into spot #4 . . .
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#221064 - 04/07/11 03:39 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: Russ]
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Oooops - my bad, should have looked through the thread a bit closer. Any input from bacpacjac can have precedence over my $0.02 worth any day.

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#221072 - 04/07/11 10:06 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: ponder]
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LOL! My bad - bad formatting!

Goodness no, Eric. My two pennies are worth as much as anyone else's and not as much as some. I'm still on the learning curve - and hope to stay that way. wink
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#221076 - 04/07/11 11:17 AM Re: Is the LDS list to radical to digest? [Re: ponder]
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Challenging the notion that faith literature is inappropriate for a 72 hour kit:

-survival in the medium to long term is arguably a group effort. Faith-based groups offer the occupational heterogeneity necessary to provide a wide and flexible communal skill-set.

-faith-based survival groupings have a shared set of values and behavioral norms that will promote inter-group harmony and ethical and merciful treatment of strangers.

-everybody believes in something: If the gospel according to Doug Ritter or Bear Grylls is reasonably included in a kit, why not include some of the older sacred texts?

-there is more to survival than building a fire.

-and if there is not more to survival than building a fire, faith literature makes dandy tinder.

I realize that the sheriff may nuke this, and I would understand it perfectly: faith literature might be the most hazardous of concealed weapons, and ccw has no place here...
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