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#216531 - 02/06/11 02:45 PM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: jzmtl]
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Originally Posted By: jzmtl
I quite like the Borde form the looks of it, compact and liquid fueled. Too bad they are really expensive from what I can see.
Yeah, pretty pricey, and they are now discontinued which means they are going to only become pricier still. The Borde has an almost cult like following. People find them fascinating.

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#216540 - 02/06/11 04:10 PM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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great!!!..i can't wait!!!

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#216561 - 02/06/11 11:37 PM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Are you sure you won't ... wait for it ... get borde? (groan)

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#216575 - 02/07/11 02:45 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Is there anything on the market today that is similar to the borde stove, as in small compact liquid fueled, but doesn't break the bank?

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#216577 - 02/07/11 03:30 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: jzmtl]
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I thought of the Svea 123 and similar models, which evidently is not currently marketed, but this model should be available used. With only minimum maintenance, you can pass them on to your granchildren.

If you want a really cheap, but effective stove, consider something fueled by alcohol. Cost ranges from nothing to maybe $12 or so.

There is no one, perfect stove, but there are lots of alternatives.
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#216579 - 02/07/11 04:04 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: jzmtl]
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Originally Posted By: jzmtl
Is there anything on the market today that is similar to the borde stove, as in small compact liquid fueled, but doesn't break the bank?
Similar to the Borde? Not quite, but the MSR Simmerlite is pretty compact.

I'm a big fan of the Svea 123 that hikemor mentions. I wouldn't exactly call it compact, but it's not huge either. Wonderful reputation for reliability. The "R" model is still being made today although it is no longer made in Sweden and Optimus is no longer a Swedish company.

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#216632 - 02/08/11 12:59 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Oh? Who bought Optimus?

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#216633 - 02/08/11 01:09 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: jzmtl]
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Originally Posted By: jzmtl
Oh? Who bought Optimus?


Optimus is now owned by Katadyn (best known for their water filters.) Optimus is still based out of Sweden and still manufactures the stoves as they did previous to being acquired by Katadyn.

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#216643 - 02/08/11 05:29 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: Teslinhiker]
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The last information that I saw was that Optimus' operations had largely been moved out of Sweden except for some marketing and sales stuff. Won't swear to that, that's what I've seen.

I'm not sure where the Svea 123 is produced nowadays. They no longer say "Made In Sweden," they just say "Sweden" IIRC.

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#216649 - 02/08/11 11:46 AM Re: Stove of the Week: MSR WindPro [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Originally Posted By: Hikin_Jim
The last information that I saw was that Optimus' operations had largely been moved out of Sweden except for some marketing and sales stuff. Won't swear to that, that's what I've seen.

I'm not sure where the Svea 123 is produced nowadays. They no longer say "Made In Sweden," they just say "Sweden" IIRC.

HJ


Jim:

I stand corrected. Optimus stoves are made in China. Scroll down about 1/2 a page to see the Optimus stoves which also lists their country of manufacture.
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