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#21583 - 11/19/03 02:30 AM Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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#21584 - 11/19/03 02:35 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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I think eodman would like to have this sent to him next.

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#21585 - 11/19/03 02:36 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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After eodman I would like to have Lundin's book sent to me. I will PM eodman sometime after this books adventure begins.

Thanks

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#21586 - 11/19/03 02:43 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Checked out to eodman

Actually I've already pm'd PVR4 and it's heading to me tomorrow. I'll mark you as next. You can pm your personal data at your leisure.

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#21587 - 11/19/03 02:44 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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This is one the way to eodman tomorrow.

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#21588 - 11/20/03 12:58 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Requesting a place in line after Schwert for this book.

Schwert, Please PM me when you've finished reading it and you're about ready to send it, no rush though, I know we have a pretty good que started here. <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Thanks.

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#21589 - 12/02/03 10:12 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Checked out to Schwert

It went out this afternoon. Enjoy it

Ed

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#21590 - 12/03/03 09:51 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Excellent, I will post when it arrives. Thanks

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#21591 - 12/08/03 11:14 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Ed,

Lundin's Book just arrived in great shape. I will start reading tonight and let Comanche know when I am nearly done.

Thanks
Randy

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#21592 - 12/17/03 02:12 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Comanche,

I am done with this and should get it posted this week, along with a stack of Christmas presents to family. I will PM you when it is sent.

Good read BTW. Doug's review covers it well. I think this is a very good text....much better than most of the ones out there that are as dry as dust. This and David Alloway's are my favorites of the modern texts.

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#21593 - 12/17/03 07:26 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Posted today to Comanche.

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#21594 - 12/18/03 02:07 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Thanks, I'm looking forward to reading this one. I'll post receipt.

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#21595 - 12/22/03 11:45 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Hi Schwert,

Received it today in great shape, nice packing job! I'm guessing about a week or two due to holidays and mixed up schedules around here & I'll be ready to send it on to ...

[hmmm...scratches head with subsequent light bulb moment...goes off to get the STORM whistle and blow it extra loudly...]

OK now... > Hey Ya'll....WHO'S NEXT??? <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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#21596 - 12/23/03 03:21 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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I kind of think you can read this at your leisure....I do not know if there is a current next......

Glad it made it there in good shape.

Let me know what you think about his caffeine/ephedra discussion. I thought most of his ideas and recommendations were very good....except for this one. I am totally addicted to caffeine but I am not a fan of using ephedra and caffeine as a pep product.

Enjoy

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#21597 - 12/23/03 11:26 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Hmmm...since no one else wants it <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Let me know when you're almost done....
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#21598 - 12/23/03 11:25 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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That was one of my biggest issues with the book too. Other than that is was great.

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#21599 - 12/23/03 11:59 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Schwert & pvr4: Skimmed over the book last night and was a bit baffled (and caught off guard) by that part as well. I'm looking forward to re-reading it in a more relaxed setting and try to see what I missed on the first pass.

From what I've seen so far, the remainder of the book is pretty much on target. At first glance, there seem to be some pretty good physiological explainations are given for a few things that I've wondered about for a while.

The "Praise and other" comments section in the front of the book provided some interesting reading. <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


billy.guttery: You're next in line, send a PM with your address, I'll post when done reading and ready to ship. <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Comanche7

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#21600 - 12/24/03 01:16 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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This text is fresh to say the least. His thought behind the basics of his kit are clear and logical...even the stimulant stuff. Watch carefully the section on fire starting. He does several pages on matches including selection, striking, waxing, containers, etc. His detail here is amazing compared to most texts which essentially say carry some matches. It is very clear that he has thought about these tools in a teaching mode rather than a telling mode....very nice. He then goes on with magnesium and flint bars, lighters, magnifiers etc. If anyone reads this book and does not come away with a fine appreciation of the importance of firelighting then they really did not read it!

This book has got to be one of the best on the shelf for both its fresh perspective, clear language, and attempt to teach. It has much more to offer in my view than many or most of the texts you can find at bookstores or libraries.

Enjoy

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#21601 - 12/30/03 05:34 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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>>>>Let me know what you think about his caffeine/ephedra discussion. I thought most of his ideas and recommendations were very good....except for this one. I am totally addicted to caffeine but I am not a fan of using ephedra and caffeine as a pep product<<<<

About to become a moot issue according to this
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031230/ap_on_he_me/ephedra

Of course some lawyer will undoubtably find a reason to challenge this in court

Ed

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#21602 - 12/31/03 06:32 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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>>Of course some lawyer will undoubtably find a reason to challenge this in court

You say that like it's a bad thing. Isn't that what lawyers are for?

In any event, it's not likely to be the lawyers mounting a court challenge - if anyone does, it'll be the corporations that were making millions by peddling a dangerous food supplement to the public.
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#21603 - 01/19/04 05:13 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Billy.guttery,

I anticipate shipping this out this week, I'll confirm here that it is in the mail and will also send a PM.

Overall a nice read. After re-reading the Ephedra section, I now see where he is coming from, although I do not concur with the actions detailed. since TANSTAFL. It may work for others though it may well be a moot point with the recent changes in legal regulation...

Regards,
Comanche7

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#21604 - 01/20/04 06:45 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Can't wait to read it....
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#21605 - 01/27/04 12:26 AM Re: T.A.O.K.Y.A.A. > Checkedout to billy.guttery
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billy.guttery,

You've got incoming...smiling face at the post office counter indicated 5-7 days...

Regards,
Commanche7

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#21606 - 01/27/04 12:43 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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From a personal standpoint, I don't believe stimulants or depressants should be administered without a valid medical/tactical reason. People who stay awake too long may BELIEVE they are accomplishing something, but look at any meth addict for the actual results...lots and lots of smoke, but no fire <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Forty hour forced march where you don't have to think, just move...maybe. As long as someone who's had some sleep is telling you which way to go...

Anyhow, looking forward to reading this one.
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#21607 - 02/04/04 02:49 AM Re: T.A.O.K.Y.A.A. > Checkedout to billy.guttery
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Got it today...thanks a bunch. However, see my off-topic post in Campfire to as why I will not be reading it immediately <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

By the way, who's next??
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#21608 - 02/05/04 12:42 PM Re: T.A.O.K.Y.A.A. > Checkedout to billy.guttery
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Pretty decent book; parts I liked, parts I didn't like.

The whole ephedrine/caffeine section was done tastefully, your mileage may vary, however...I'm quite certain he's one heck of an instructor <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Party On!

Ok, who's next? If no one owns up in the next week or so, I'll send it back to Mini...
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#21609 - 02/13/04 08:58 PM Add me to the list
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I'd like to be added to the list for 98.6.

I couldn't find any other references to who would be next.

rkt88edmo..aol-com

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#21610 - 02/14/04 12:33 PM Re: Add me to the list
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PM'd ya for yer addy...
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#21611 - 03/11/04 08:48 PM sent address
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Sent my address via PM on 2/15.
Let me know if you need me to send it again.
<img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#21612 - 03/15/04 12:12 PM Re: sent address
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I've got it...sorry this has taken so long, with the new baby, work, and my reserve unit, Tuesday will be the first day I'll have a chance to get to the post office...I'll let you know when it gets out <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#21613 - 03/28/04 11:46 AM Re: sent address
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a month late...but it went out last friday. Enjoy, and sorry for the delay...

Just got my paycheck for all the overtime I've worked, and man, it wasn't worth it <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#21614 - 04/02/04 03:00 PM Re: sent address
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98.6 received on Wednesday <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#21615 - 04/08/04 10:55 AM Re: sent address
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Coolness. Enjoy <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#21616 - 05/03/04 08:45 AM Re: sent address
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I'd like to get on the list for this.

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#21617 - 06/04/04 02:33 PM Re: sent address
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Book sent to PaulR

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#21618 - 06/05/04 06:29 AM Re: sent address
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Arrived and I've looked through it a little. It's an entertaining book. Some of the equipment choices are a bit behind the times, but the guy has a good practical attitude. I'll try to post further comments after I've read it more.

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#21619 - 07/28/04 10:23 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Hmm, forum list says this thread was updated on 7/14 by rbruce, but I don't see rbruce's message. Anyway I still have this book. If someone wants it next, pm me.

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#21620 - 01/14/05 03:08 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Hey, Paul, as per your PM, I'm posting here to request the book. My address is in the PM. Thanks!

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#21621 - 01/15/05 09:20 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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I'll send it out this weekend if I get a chance. If you don't get it within a week or so, I probably let it slide and forgot, so remind me.

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#21622 - 01/17/05 11:59 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Sounds good. No hurry. <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#21623 - 01/20/05 12:11 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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It's packed up and ready to go, but I haven't had a chance to bring it to the post office yet. Stupid new rules, can't drop packages over 1 pound in the mailbox. I taped a Countycomm coin cell flashlight to the outside of the book, to start your kit with.

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#21624 - 01/26/05 11:18 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Just got the book. Thanks for it and the light. Much brighter than I thought it would be. I'm going to get a pack from CountyComm and pass them out among my friends.

If anyone wants the book after a week or two, let me know.

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#21625 - 02/04/05 10:03 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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I'm glad the stuff arrived ok. One warning about the CC light, they can turn on accidentally if you drop them (the weight of the batteries pushes the switch sled forward) and the batteries can drain that way. You'll notice I put a piece of scotch tape over the switch of the one I sent you, to prevent that from happening. If you put the light in a PSK, you probably want to leave the tape on it until you want to use it.

There's another light that I like better these days, a Photon II clone being sold for $1.25 by KevinL at CPF. See the "Tiny PSK light" thread on the survival section of this board for some more info. He also has a $1.75 version that's about 1/3 the size of a Photon (that's what the "tiny" thread is about) but that's a less practical light unless you're trying to absolutely minimize your kit size (e.g. Altoids mini-tin).

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#21626 - 02/05/05 06:46 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Good to know. I'm currently using the light as EDC but I imagine that i'll stock away a few for kit purposes. Thank you again!

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#21627 - 02/08/05 04:35 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Not positive if you are the last person on the list, but I would love to check this book out before I buy it.
I will pm you my address.
Anyone who wants it after me, just let me know here, by email or pm.
Thanks,
Brome
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#21628 - 02/21/05 02:00 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Brome,

Sorry it took so long to respond. I've been away from the internet for the past week or so. PM me again to let me know you still want the book and I'll send it out today. Again, I apologise for the delay.

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#21629 - 02/22/05 04:04 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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No worries; PM sent.
Brome
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#21630 - 02/26/05 03:48 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Brome,

Sorry again for the delay, it'll be shipping out today.

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#21631 - 03/14/05 05:16 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Got the book on Saturday. Will take a look at it over then next week or so and then send it on the next person.
Looks like a great book so far.
Brome
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#21632 - 03/22/05 08:37 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Ok, everyone, just about done with this book.
Please post here, email or pm me if your are interested in checking it out next. Should be ready to send in on in about a week.
Thanks,
Brome
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#21633 - 04/04/05 04:54 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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OK, I have had this book long enough, time to send it on. Haven't had any bites yet, but I will give everyone until Tuesday, 5APR at 1600 to let me know, otherwise I will send it back to Paul.
Thanks,
Brome
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#21634 - 04/05/05 08:37 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Why send it back to me? I got it the same way you did. Sooner or later someone will ask for it. I think I had it around 6 months.

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#21635 - 04/10/05 01:22 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Sounds good.
Just didn't want to be hogging the book.
I will hang on to it, then, untill I hear from someone, anyone.
Will give me a chance to reread some parts...
Thanks,
Brome
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#21636 - 04/13/05 06:30 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Hi if the book is still around, I would like to have my name added to the list for the chance to read the book

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#21637 - 12/03/05 02:42 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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I would like to read this if it is still circulating.
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#21638 - 01/16/06 02:06 PM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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Hi...

If still around, I would love the chance to read it. Thanks!

Michael

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#21639 - 09/01/06 08:56 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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I would love to read this book. I think it would do a lot of people a lot of good!!! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#21640 - 10/20/06 06:11 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive
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#129481 - 04/07/08 07:06 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive [Re: Brome_McCreary]
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interested in checking out. how current is this thread?
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#130184 - 04/15/08 08:02 AM Re: Book: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive [Re: JAMAR]
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nevermind, i went to the library and checked it out! smile
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