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#212377 - 12/05/10 02:47 AM State laws on knives (NYT article)
TimDex Offline
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Article in the NY Times on state laws on knives. From the photo, I am, as a NY state resident, apparently breaking the law...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/us/05knives.html?pagewanted=1&hp

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#212378 - 12/05/10 04:15 AM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: TimDex]
ireckon Offline
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It's hard even to imagine that such a raid happened in America. Pretty soon, people will want to ban all self-defense classes that teach how to protect yourself effectively. When there's nothing left, chefs will be forced to use dull knives in the kitchen. In order to stay sane, I have to be in denial about how lame many people in power are.
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#212468 - 12/06/10 02:29 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: TimDex]
Jesselp Offline
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Registered: 07/19/07
Posts: 266
Loc: New York
This article hits close to home, as I live just outside of NYC. It inspired me to make a donation to Knife Rights.


Edited by Jesselp (12/06/10 02:40 PM)

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#212469 - 12/06/10 02:32 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: TimDex]
Tyber Offline
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Registered: 04/27/09
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Loc: ST. Paul MN
This is a great article and an even better win for the Knife Rights group!!

Thank you to all of you who work so hard to keep us who see knives as tools and not weapons viewed in the eye of the law as tools and not weapons.

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#212473 - 12/06/10 03:52 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: Tyber]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
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Loc: Colorado
I certainly don't look at my EDC knife as a weapon (currently a Spyderco Native). If I were down to only that pocket knife for defense, I figure I'd be a goner. Mostly, my Native serves very mundane duties - typically just cutting open bags of horse feed. Not a very glamorous life for the Spyderco. Nothing like the excitement of raping and pillaging like the knives in NY must be doing.

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#212481 - 12/06/10 05:16 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: TimDex]
ireckon Offline
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I too have never used a knife as a self-defense tool. I have used a knife as a tool for cooking, fishing, cutting open boxes, etc. However, I don't blame anybody who carries a knife for self-defense and for nothing else. By the way, I'm 37. I would not be able to out box (or outrun) the 21-year-old version of me. I would need a tool to cheat and defend myself. A knife is always on me, so that may have to do.
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#212498 - 12/06/10 07:55 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
Florida is becoming quite a problem state for EDCing anything other than a pair of nail clippers. The law is super vague and says that "common pocket knives" are okay. This law hasn't been updated since 1951 and way too open for interpretation by police officers with bad attitude problems. I've switched up to just carrying a MT or SAK on a belt pouch.


My understanding is that the Florida's Concealed Weapons License allows handguns, knives, and other weapons.

This doesn't mean that I think the law shouldn't be changed -- I think any competent adult should be allowed to safely carry whatever sharp objects they choose.

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#212506 - 12/06/10 09:03 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: TimDex]
HerbG Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
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An article about knives or guns in the NY Times and no editorial slant? I can hardly believe it!

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#212513 - 12/06/10 10:04 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: HerbG]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Well, kind of. The photo caption says "illegal knives" when, at least based on my eyesight, many appear to merely be normal folders not gravity knives or switchblades. OK, so maybe I'm splitting hairs, but the paper is offering a conclusion about the knives not merely "just the facts" information.

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#212525 - 12/06/10 11:54 PM Re: State laws on knives (NYT article) [Re: Hikin_Jim]
Paul810 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
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Loc: NJ, USA
Originally Posted By: Hikin_Jim
Well, kind of. The photo caption says "illegal knives" when, at least based on my eyesight, many appear to merely be normal folders not gravity knives or switchblades. OK, so maybe I'm splitting hairs, but the paper is offering a conclusion about the knives not merely "just the facts" information.

HJ


According to the way NYC interprets their law, the knives pictures ARE considered gravity knives/switchblades.

That's the whole issue here. People are buying and carrying the typical one-handed opening locking knives that are sold all over the place, then getting arrested in NYC for carrying a switchblade/gravity knife. Guys that carry locking razor blades for their work are getting arrested and charged.

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