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#205350 - 07/31/10 05:51 PM Re: Chinese Entrenching Tool. I WANT ONE!! [Re: celler]
Roarmeister Offline
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Registered: 09/12/01
Posts: 960
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: celler
I guess these little jewels never made it to this hemisphere?


They are available on EBay (isn't everything???)

The basic specs:
Gross weight : 1.2 KG
Total Length : 565 mm
Length of folded : 380 mm
Shovel board size : 202mm x 157mm x 1.9mm
Material &#65306; stainless steel 2Cr13
Rigidity : HRC44
Origin : China

A couple of the sales were at a ridiculous price and just as ridiculous shipping cost but they appear to be original. There are also some (get this!) Chinese knock-offs of the Toparmy shovel that are also available for dirt cheap.

BTW, I'm not really understanding the "everything China BAD, everything USA GOOD" attitude prevalent here. I've bought lots of good Chinese stuff and lots of bad US made stuff that would say otherwise.

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#205361 - 07/31/10 08:14 PM Re: Chinese Entrenching Tool. I WANT ONE!! [Re: Roarmeister]
dougwalkabout Offline
Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3219
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Yeah, they're intriguing, but "Buy it now" for $99 CAD? No thanks.

No way are the originals made of stainless steel. Pretty when hanging on the wall, but it would cost too much to make and wouldn't hold up to the abuse.

Chinese knock-offs of Chinese military gear? Hilarious!

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#205362 - 07/31/10 08:28 PM Re: Chinese Entrenching Tool. I WANT ONE!! [Re: dougwalkabout]
sybert777 Offline
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Registered: 10/15/09
Posts: 300
Loc: 62208
Roarmeister, I know what you mean about the "Chinese Bad, USA Good" but I dont have a problem with the quality, I have a problem with our revenues going over seas to another country... Unless it is Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Europe in general...

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#205520 - 08/03/10 01:32 PM Re: Chinese Entrenching Tool. I WANT ONE!! [Re: sybert777]
TANSTAF1 Offline
Newbie

Registered: 07/27/10
Posts: 25
Loc: Born in ME, in exile in MA
Maybe they are $99 because they are stainless steel?

How hard is metal that is "HRC44" as mentioned in the eBay thread?

For the saw to function for a reasonable time they must be fairly hard metal otherwise it would be pointless to include a saw.

How hard is this compared to US military entrenching tools?

I understand there are hardness files that you can use to gauge how hard metals are. How easy are these to use to get a reasonably accurate determination?

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