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#202094 - 05/19/10 03:33 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: oldsoldier]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: oldsoldier
And, I am sure we all know the 5 P's, right? smile


Nope...that's why I'm here...link please.

Originally Posted By: roberttheiii
I'm about to make a terrible confession - I don't have an assembled BOB, but I guess if I'm going to start hiking w/a pack, I should assemble one and see much it weighs...


Well, my bag is not nearly sufficient. I've been working more on my mind. I've been focusing on the "how" and the "why", as opposed to "what" gear I'm buying.
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#202096 - 05/19/10 03:40 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: ireckon]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Personally I always seems to remember more easily the 7Ps more than the meaning of the 5Ps. wink Hmm, I wonder if that is on my companies Acronym Server... grin Somehow I doubt it.


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#202097 - 05/19/10 03:42 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: roberttheiii]
unimogbert Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 882
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: roberttheiii
I'm about to make a terrible confession - I don't have an assembled BOB, but I guess if I'm going to start hiking w/a pack, I should assemble one and see much it weighs...



Then, if you can lift it, see how far you can carry it :-)

If you can't lift it, reconsider the contents. Repeat as necessary.

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#202099 - 05/19/10 03:57 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: ireckon]
oldsoldier Offline
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Registered: 11/25/06
Posts: 742
Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: ireckon
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Nope...that's why I'm here...link please.


Am_Fear hit it with his link: the 5 P's (or 7, military dependent), are Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance. With the addition of the other two, its Propor Prior Planning Prevents (fill in blank) Poor Performance. Being this is a family oriented site, I say stick with the 5P's-although I will use the 7 in my personal life smile
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#202108 - 05/19/10 04:55 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: oldsoldier]
ireckon Offline
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Cool... The word "prior" seems redundant, but it's too late to change it now.
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#202112 - 05/19/10 06:02 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: ireckon]
airballrad Offline
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Registered: 10/22/07
Posts: 248
Loc: Gulf Coast Florida, USA
Originally Posted By: ireckon
Cool... The word "prior" seems redundant, but it's too late to change it now.

Well, that version does come from the military side of things, where redundancy is prized... grin

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#202134 - 05/20/10 01:35 AM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: airballrad]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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I always heard the 7P's as "Proper Previous Planning Prevents [censored] Poor Performance."

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#202165 - 05/20/10 02:49 PM Re: The second most important piece of equipment [Re: MDinana]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
When I first heard it back in the 70's it was 6P's: Prior Planning Prevents P*** Poor Performance.
Adding "Proper" to make it 7P's seems to be redundant. . . and British (no offense).
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