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#199338 - 03/31/10 12:50 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: hikermor]
Dagny Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC

People have been killed by plane crashes while sitting in their homes. Planes have crash landed on highways.

That jogger had a much better chance of winning a mega-lottery that day than being hit by a plane while jogging on the beach.

Statistically, I'm in far more danger walking across my street.

But if I'd been jogging with that guy....




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#199355 - 03/31/10 03:53 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: unimogbert]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
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Registered: 09/10/08
Posts: 382
Originally Posted By: unimogbert
If I got the story right the jogger was listening to his iPod. Takes a pretty big whistle to get thru that.

If this happens again in the next 5 years I'd reconsider the crash whistle idea to suppress the mass destruction of life.


oh, wait. What will you require of gliders now?

Not really. Maybe whistle is the wrong word, foghorn? iPod headphones can be loud, but its not a soundbooth.

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#199356 - 03/31/10 03:53 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: BorkBorkBork]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
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Registered: 09/10/08
Posts: 382
Originally Posted By: BorkBorkBork
Nothing like a high pitched whistle to calm your nerves, eh?

and no, the pilot didn't put the landing gear down either...

would be interesting though to fit all aircraft with a high pitched whistle, especially if you live close to an airport.
...

and what if the jogger had been deaf?

Actually it would have been better to equip all small aircraft with a parachute !
http://thefutureofthings.com/pod/184/aircraft-parachute.html

Why would it be high pitch? Or be turned on for normal use?
Ok , pilot didn't put landing gear down, but he had the time, he was talking to air traffic control.
Quote:
Schiavo says the pilot should have been able to see through a small window on the side of the plane and possibly yell out to anyone below.

Whistle is louder than yelling.
The jogger obviously wasn't deaf, and most people aren't deaf.
Also, whistle is cheaper than parachute.

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#199357 - 03/31/10 03:56 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: hikermor]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
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Registered: 09/10/08
Posts: 382
Originally Posted By: hikermor
The problem is the jogger was running the wrong way. How stupid is that? So pass a law requiring joggers to run in the proper direction....

Sorry, this is a very unfortunate situation, and extremely tragic for the individuals concerned. Legislation, however, is not required.


If only there was something to alert joggers,
some cheap signal that says i-am-coming-get-out-my-way,
some kind of whistle device, you know, like cars and boats have,


ps, i never suggested legislation, something this cheap and obvious shouldn't require legislation


Edited by EMPnotImplyNuclear (03/31/10 03:58 PM)
Edit Reason: add ps

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#199358 - 03/31/10 04:16 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
Maybe a beep beep horn?
Please honk three times before crashing


(It is still a very freak accident, and the comment about the jogger running the wrong way is funny, a bit off, but still funny.)
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#199363 - 03/31/10 05:13 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: scafool]
BorkBorkBork Offline
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Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 70
Loc: Sweden
ever heard of the Doppler effect?

ever tried to shout against the wind?
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#199369 - 03/31/10 05:52 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
unimogbert Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 882
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: EMPnotImplyNuclear


ps, i never suggested legislation, something this cheap and obvious shouldn't require legislation


Those are two assumptions (cheap, obvious) that would have to be certified for flight and certified for every airplane it is to be installed in which guarantees negation of "cheap" and threatens "obvious."

Don't you want fixed-gear airplanes to whistle too? That'll be a different device since it'll have to be activated when...... hmmm.

It was a terrible accident. Those happen sometimes.



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#199370 - 03/31/10 06:55 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
KTOA Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 86
Loc: SoCal
Is this really a credible threat? I don't think it is. A systemic problem? Find similar incidents then (you must have data):

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp


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#199371 - 03/31/10 06:59 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: KTOA]
BrianTexas Offline
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Registered: 04/26/06
Posts: 304
Loc: North Central Texas, USA
What ever happened to simply accepting some things as just "fate", "Karma", "divine intervention", et al? A gamma ray burst that just happened to be pointing at the earth would be devastating, but impossible to forecast or prevent.
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#199378 - 03/31/10 10:54 PM Re: silent crashing airplane hazard [Re: BrianTexas]
JBMat Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 745
Loc: NC
Along with incredibly long shot odds -

A batter in a MLB game hit his mother in the stands with a foul tip. Odds at this happening - 100%.

Think about it, it happened.

Odds at it re-occuring, I don't wanna think about a number that big.

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